Since I left Opera when it went Chromium around 2005, I was a very happy firefox user.

The new update added a button ‘List all tabs’ on my toolbar, that I cant remove without some css magic. I tried, and tried to get use to it. I cant. It distract me all the time, I have no use for it. And I dont have the patience to do the css editing needed to hide it. Plus, this is the second time I cannot easily customize FF (first time was when they forced some round edge Tab for no reason and no easy rollback), so I suppose the browser is toast for me.

For PC. What do you recommend for a change?

I recall at a time using some browser build on Firefox , “BlueFox” (ed:WaterFox) or something like that. Are those still operational? I just need a my speedial customisable And all the menu button to be removed/added. And firefox addon: uBlock, Yesscript, Cookie autodelete … Dont care for speed, or whatever.

On a side note: WTF with those browser deciding what we want? They can allow us to customize any layout, so why force some fucking button I never asked for? I dont see the endgame

  • cabbageEnglish
    2•6 hours ago

    I am currently testing out Zen browser, and it seems fine. I am not sure how much it can be customized vis-a-vis Firefox, but I wanted something that remains Gecko based and relatively close to FireFox, and it seems to deliver.

    I tried LibreWolf, but I quickly realized it’s not for me. Not allowing websites to detect dark mode preferences is a level of paranoia I hope I’ll never reach.

    • @ooliOP
      0•4 hours ago

      Thanks, Just installed it. Doesnt seems to have an import option from firefox, only Edgme, Chrome and IE.

      EDIT: NeverMind: I imported the files by hand.

      EDIT2 : uninstalled: Their “core design” is having Tab to the left. May make sense on small device. On PC , I need to be see the name of my tab at a glance. So I need them horizontally

      • cabbage
        2•4 hours ago

        Gosh, I didn’t realize the tabs couldn’t be set to horizontal. That’s a likely deal breaker for a lot of people.

        I figured I’d give vertical tabs a chance (I usually keep too many tabs open to see their name anyway, and I understand the rational behind them), but not at all sure I’ll stick with it. Hopefully they’ll add support for horizontal tabs soon.

        • @ooliOP
          2•4 hours ago

          I came upon one post from them saying : vertical tab is “core design” we wont change it, or remove it. Bold statement, if not a wrong one.

          • cabbage
            1•3 hours ago

            I’m happy to have it as the default behaviour, as long as it can be easily changed. Similar to Vivaldi I guess.