there’s no feedback mechanism that will result in the promotion of instances with better moderation
I think that’s very narrow-minded. There definitely is a feedback mechanism, and it’s called word of mouth. Same feedback mechanism used for lots of things. If you don’t like your instance and you hear of a better one, you can switch. You could even imagine users writing reviews for their instances some place so people have an idea of where to go, although such a review aggregator does not exist right now to my knowledge.
new users have no to way to gauge the quality of moderation of an instance, and neither do disgruntled current users
New users can gauge based on what they see, but ultimately it doesn’t matter much. New users should just pick any instance that looks okay to them and they can always switch later if they feel they discover a better choice. Disgruntled current users can switch to a better instance or create their own. If you ask me, there is definitely a feedback mechanism in that sense.
It is true that “big bad” instances may be more visible than “small good” instances, but I think that is only a temporary thing that will get better with time. Good places will keep their users while bad places will slowly lose them to good places, but that doesn’t happen instantaneously.
When was the last time you went with a recommendation made by “word of mouth” instead of Googling reviews? How easy is it to “create a new instance”? How are fragmented instances, with unpaid volunteers that are constantly being criticized meant to be a sustainable model to run ANYTHING?
These arguments just seem stupid and place more work on people who just want to see funnies. That’s how Lemmy dies.
When was the last time you went with a recommendation made by “word of mouth” instead of Googling reviews?
Like, all the time? I constantly hear of recommendations for all kinds of stuff in real life and here on the fediverse. Obviously that’s rarely concerning fediverse instances (never in real life) but it is brought up surprisingly often. Often you’ll find comments like “glad I’m on domain.example”, recommending an instance.
Also who says you couldn’t Google reviews for instances? Seems like a reviewing platform for instances would be useful. Not sure if it exists yet.
How easy is it to “create a new instance”?
Certainly not something for the average user. It is not easy and takes work. But thankfully you need only very few instances compared to users and people have already made instances that are fairly well moderated, I would say.
How are fragmented instances, with unpaid volunteers that are constantly being criticized meant to be a sustainable model to run ANYTHING?
If your instance is good, you shouldn’t be constantly criticised. Or at least, there should be a core of users that enjoy your instance.
Do you have a better suggestion for how to run the fediverse?
These arguments just seem stupid and place more work on people who just want to see funnies. That’s how Lemmy dies.
If a person is too lazy to ever change instances and don’t want to bother with that choice, and don’t even care enough to have the option… Why even be here? That person should just go back to reddit. I’m sure there’s still plenty of funnies to see there.
I think that’s very narrow-minded. There definitely is a feedback mechanism, and it’s called word of mouth. Same feedback mechanism used for lots of things. If you don’t like your instance and you hear of a better one, you can switch. You could even imagine users writing reviews for their instances some place so people have an idea of where to go, although such a review aggregator does not exist right now to my knowledge.
New users can gauge based on what they see, but ultimately it doesn’t matter much. New users should just pick any instance that looks okay to them and they can always switch later if they feel they discover a better choice. Disgruntled current users can switch to a better instance or create their own. If you ask me, there is definitely a feedback mechanism in that sense.
It is true that “big bad” instances may be more visible than “small good” instances, but I think that is only a temporary thing that will get better with time. Good places will keep their users while bad places will slowly lose them to good places, but that doesn’t happen instantaneously.
When was the last time you went with a recommendation made by “word of mouth” instead of Googling reviews? How easy is it to “create a new instance”? How are fragmented instances, with unpaid volunteers that are constantly being criticized meant to be a sustainable model to run ANYTHING?
These arguments just seem stupid and place more work on people who just want to see funnies. That’s how Lemmy dies.
https://lemm.ee/post/41099066/14469644
Like, all the time? I constantly hear of recommendations for all kinds of stuff in real life and here on the fediverse. Obviously that’s rarely concerning fediverse instances (never in real life) but it is brought up surprisingly often. Often you’ll find comments like “glad I’m on domain.example”, recommending an instance.
Also who says you couldn’t Google reviews for instances? Seems like a reviewing platform for instances would be useful. Not sure if it exists yet.
Certainly not something for the average user. It is not easy and takes work. But thankfully you need only very few instances compared to users and people have already made instances that are fairly well moderated, I would say.
If your instance is good, you shouldn’t be constantly criticised. Or at least, there should be a core of users that enjoy your instance.
Do you have a better suggestion for how to run the fediverse?
If a person is too lazy to ever change instances and don’t want to bother with that choice, and don’t even care enough to have the option… Why even be here? That person should just go back to reddit. I’m sure there’s still plenty of funnies to see there.