• @[email protected]
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    15 hours ago

    You’re mistaken about bush v gore. The Supreme Court gave us bush because gore didn’t want to do a whole state recount (which is what would have been necessary to show that Florida went for him, which it did. the handful of counties they settled on wasn’t enough to change the results by themselves).

    Why are you talking about sanders? He’s not running and if he were I wouldn’t vote for him.

    • @chiliedogg
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      12 hours ago

      Bush defeated Gore in Florida in the final count by 537 votes.

      Nader received over 97,000 votes. Had he not been in the race, his supporters would have overwhelmingly preferred Gore to Bush. Yeah, some of them would have chosen not to vote. But even if 99%of them had stayed home, that remaining 1% would have been enough to win Gore the state in a manner that would have kept it from ever going to the Supreme Court.

      The Bush administration was a horror show for the US and the world. The economic, diplomatic, environmental, and human cost of it is unimaginable, and people like you are why it happened.

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        11 hour ago

        You are, as I have stated several times, mistaken about bush v gore.

        Every post-hock review of statewide ballots that I’ve ever heard of has had gore winning by a narrow margin.

        Just the butterfly ballots alone would have tilted the pre-recount tally in gores favor.

        Nader didn’t give us bush, the Supreme Court and the weak recount of only a few counties did.

        Would gore have been significantly different after 9/11? I thought so back then, but now I’m not convinced. The preparations to invade Iraq again were being made during the end of the Clinton administration and there was enough personnel carryover from Clinton to bush that I believe it would have been the same but with different graft.

        I asked earlier if people like me were more to blame than non voters, than the parties who failed to convince us or even recognize that they needed us and the administrations who actually perpetuated the myriad war crimes of the bush and Obama administrations. Are we?

        Break it down here, what precise volume of Iraqi blood is on my hands?