• @beebarfbadger
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    111 days ago

    Wanna know who does not disagree with me? The judge who ruled on this question in a case against Fox News. Wanna know why she came to that conclusion?`Because, and get this, because FOX NEWS themselves argued as follows:

    Fox News seeks dismissal at the pleading stage on two constitutional grounds. First, it asserts that Mr. Carlson’s statements on the December 10, 2018, episode of his show are constitutionally protected opinion commentary on matters of public importance and are not reasonably understood as being factual.

    As Defendant notes, Mr. Carlson himself aims to “challenge[] political correctness and media bias.” Def. Br. at 14. This “general tenor” of the show should then inform a viewer that he is notstating actual facts” about the topics he discusses and is instead engaging in “exaggerationandnon-literal commentary.” […] Fox persuasively argues, see Def Br. at 13-15, that given Mr. Carlson’s reputation, any reasonable viewer “arrive[s] with an appropriate amount of skepticism” about the statements he makes.

    (emphasis in bold by me)

    So Fox News claim they are not news, but commentary talk shows. Again: Fox News themselves agree with me when I say Fox News is not news and according to Fox News themselves, they cannot be reasonably understood as being factual.

    Fox News disagrees with you.

    • Socialist Mormon SatanistOPM
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      -311 days ago

      I don’t care. They are referred to as a news org, even in wikipedia. So I’ll keep using them. Thanks!

      • @beebarfbadger
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        211 days ago

        Ah, I see. Like I’m referring to my old bicycle as “my Harley” even though I know it isn’t one, it does not legally fulfill any of the criteria to legally count as a motorcycle, and nobody in their right mind would take me seriously when I say that, but it’s my little in-joke that I’m calling it that on the web. Got it.

        • Socialist Mormon SatanistOPM
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          -411 days ago

          Cool story. Haven’t changed my mind. Lots of people disagree with you, they are called Fox News, and regardless of what you think, I’ll keep posting. If you don’t like, you can leave, block me, and/or block this community! Thanks, comrade!

          • @beebarfbadger
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            011 days ago

            Oh, you misunderstand, I have no interest in you or me leaving or not posting anymore. I’m just pointing out that agreeing or disagreeing with me has absolutely no effect on the fact that Fox News does not, in objectively discernible reality, meet the bar for being counted as a news outlet. Fox News and I agree on that, but the agreeing is not what makes it true. And you’re gonna be really disappointed when you find out that Jeff Bezos’ company may be called Amazon, but it isn’t actually a river in South America.

            • Socialist Mormon SatanistOPM
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              -411 days ago

              And I’m just pointing out that agreeing or disagreeing with me has absolutely no effect on the fact that Fox News is deemed a news outlet by other news outlets and most of the public.

              So be as mad as you want. And feel free to update the Wikipedia page, which lists it as a news organization. Thanks, comrade!

              • @beebarfbadger
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                111 days ago

                What makes you think I’m mad at anyone? You have every right to be wrong and even contradict Fox News themselves. I’m just giving you enough information know whether your opinion stands up to scrutiny.

                • Socialist Mormon SatanistOPM
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                  -311 days ago

                  Friend, I don’t care. I’ll keep using fox news if they have an article i think is interesting. But thanks for your opinion. We just have different opinions.

                  • @beebarfbadger
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                    111 days ago

                    I don’t really have an opinion on that issue. I’m just the messenger here to put into perspective why Fox News publish what they publish and that it is not accurately factually informing people (at least according to Fox News). And I really have no problem with you liking Fox. I frequent The Onion too for entertainment purposes (fun fact: not an actual onion). We’re very much alike in that regard.