• @SkyezOpen
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    344 months ago

    Taking Jill Stein seriously? You ok?

    • @barsquid
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      114 months ago

      @lemmy.ml

      No, they aren’t, and they won’t be getting better, either.

    • @[email protected]
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      Notable differences between Stein and Harris:

      • opposes genocide in Gaza
      • opposes fracking
      • stronger on the environment
      • approves of single payer healthcare
      • approves of tuition free colleges for all
      • wants to slash our bloated military budget

      I live in a blue state and will be voting Green to try to build momentum for third parties and STAR voting. I do hope Trump is defeated and thrown in jail, and I’d reconsider my vote if I lived in a purple state.

      • @chemical_cutthroat
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        204 months ago

        If you want to get any real momentum for third parties, throwing your vote away isn’t it.

        • @[email protected]
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          Voting blue in a solid blue state for a candidate I have huge moral issues with (Palestine, climate change) is the definition of throwing my vote away.

          • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】
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            94 months ago

            You’re still throwing your vote away.

            Even if I accept that any state is really as solid blue as people may think, we have the opportunity as a nation to cast an overwhelming vote against fascism. That would be sending a message that the entire free world could be proud of. Nah, you can’t be bothered. You’d rather cast your vote for a Putin asset.

            • @[email protected]
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              Even if I accept that any state is really as solid blue as people may think, we have the opportunity as a nation to cast an overwhelming vote against fascism.

              I’m voting for the Green party, not a fascist.

              That would be sending a message that the entire free world could be proud of.

              The entirety of the United Nations except the US and Israel has condemned the massacre in Gaza as a genocide. You think everyone would be proud of voting for someone who intends to continue to ship weapons to Israel?

              You’d rather cast your vote for a Putin asset.

              No proof and regardless this is bigger than Jill Stein, this is about building power to the left of the Democratic party. Claudia De la Cruz would definitely be my preferred candidate over Stein, but it is what it is.

      • @ArgentRaven
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        It’s so weird you immediately list the differences between Stein and Harris, but not Trump. Totally unprompted. Considering that a third party is going against the other two, that’s odd. Almost like you know exactly what you’re doing, but won’t admit it.

        • @[email protected]
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          Why would I list the differences between Stein and Trump when I literally just said that I hope Trump loses (and thrown in jail). At no point was I ever considering voting for him. The whole point is that third parties aren’t part of the corporate duopoly.

          I’m explaining why I’m voting my conscience in a rigged FPTP system where my vote otherwise amounts to nothing (because again I’m in a blue state), but clearly nothing I say is going to stop you from making insinuations.

          Edited: the last sentence of my first paragraph for clarity

      • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝
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        104 months ago

        Okay, but who is going to vote for those things if the Greens don’t win any House or Senate seats, even if they win the presidency?

        • @[email protected]
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          -24 months ago

          Hey I just want to say I appreciate you treating me with respect which is more than I can say for a bunch of other commenters here.

          I think the president has a decent amount of power, even with a hostile congress. They can declare a climate emergency, and get funding for renewable energy that way; they can enforce an arms embargo or other sanctions (on say, Israel), they can use the bully pulpit to point out the hypocrisy of congress’s inaction.

          But the most important thing to come out of it would be that the Democratic party would be forced to listen to people on the left, and not just court right wingers all the time.