• @aidan
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    -52 hours ago

    then suggest it’s not necessarily their opinion,

    I believe it is their opinion, I suggested that pointing that out isn’t a criticism. Its a very common opinion.

    The guy just said American political literacy is embarrassingly lacking

    Because they don’t know esoteric terms nerds like us argue about on the internet. They do know what they believe is right and wrong, and what they value in their lives. They vote for people who talk about what they value. You can criticize what they value, but that’s just pitting your values against theirs. You can also criticize them for trusting, but if the last 20 years has shown anything, voters are actually not that much worse than technocratic governments at figuring out lies. And most lies that trick voters are lies to the people that tell them, or believe them.

    • @[email protected]
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      145 minutes ago

      I think you’re doing yourself a disservice here by calling these terms esoterica. Political ideologies being clearly defined and understood on a wide scale is not a negative thing. Most of the terms here in this dude’s post are talked about as solutions (or status quo) in the current era, all of it should be fresh unless you willfully ignore every single political post on every social media you use.

      Way more importantly: You really think the last 20 years were a shining example of public intelligence? Truly? With the denialism, the outright lies that have been signal boosted, the public outrage over hypothetical people and made-up organizations who never existed? How can you justify saying “these terms are esoteric” when they are literally modern? How can you justify this position you’re taking where low/no information being the norm needs to be enforced for things to be “normal” for you? You’re flippantly dismissing the idea that people could have opinions or motivations you aren’t instantly aware of, which is stupid beyond belief.

      The entirety of democratic politics is conflicting opinion/value/ideology being weighed by the many. What the hell is the problem with letting people who are informed talk about it in a public space?

    • @okamiueru
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      42 hours ago

      Gotcha. It’s very effective if you want to make up stuff, and then argue that. But, in that case, don’t you have better things to do?

      • @aidan
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        -22 hours ago

        It’s very effective if you want to make up stuff, and then argue that.

        Thanks for the insight.

        But, in that case, don’t you have better things to do?

        Procrastinating is fun.