I’m all for eliminating the two party regime. Voting third party in this election doesnt do that though. Best case scenario, a third party rises up in popularity, displaces one of the major parties, and takes its place as part of a new two party system, and eventually becomes as polarized as the party it replaced. It is inevitable in FPTP voting systems because the alternative is to have ideologically similar parties spoil the vote for one another so that neither ever wins any election again. Nuance does not exist in FPTP, as shitty as that is.
Instead of just voting 3rd party under FPTP, advocate for voting system reform like I do. Ranked Choice, Approval voting, etc. They are all objectively better than FPTP. They offer you the ability to vote for your most preferred candidates with less or no spoiler effect. Even in the worst case scenario in those systems, where every single person votes cynically for only a single candidate to “maximize” their candidate’s chances over similar candidates, that is still functionally identical to just returning to FPTP. Yes, our current system is literally the worst outcome of other systems. There has been some traction with this recently. As of 2022, 62 jurisdictions in the US adopted Ranked Choice voting. If everyone gets on board and calls for these reforms, they can and will eventually happen.
But as it is now, best case is your 3rd party vote wont make any difference and whoever was gonna win anyway wins without your vote. Worst case is your lack of vote for your preferred major party candidate contributes to the win of your least preferred candidate. It’s your vote, do what you will. But don’t pretend like the rest of us are rubes for behaving rationally with the existing voting system.
To ensure that their lesser of two evils, from your point of view, is more likely to win (assuming you are in a state where they stand a chance). You are right to be frustrated with the system, but you can still have some say. Both parties/candidates are far from the same. The outcome of this election will affect you one way or another.
I’m sorry the mods saw fit to remove your comments. While you may have used some unnecessarily insulting words, I don’t think the insults were way beyond civility. Nor do I think that your comments were without merit to your viewpoint, even though I think that viewpoint terribly cynical and misguided. I welcome more civil discussions in the future.
They admitted to being a shitposter. PoliticalMemes is not a shitpost community. That is why they got banned, and constantly accusing an entire political party of being “regime whores” is in bad faith and violates the rules, which is why they got their comments removed.
I welcome any and all civil discussion and debate. A line has to be drawn though. Civil discussion will always be tolerated.
Voting third party is a choice…
I am writing in George Carlin
In other words, you are going to let every other patient in the hospital choose your surgeon for you.
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I’m all for eliminating the two party regime. Voting third party in this election doesnt do that though. Best case scenario, a third party rises up in popularity, displaces one of the major parties, and takes its place as part of a new two party system, and eventually becomes as polarized as the party it replaced. It is inevitable in FPTP voting systems because the alternative is to have ideologically similar parties spoil the vote for one another so that neither ever wins any election again. Nuance does not exist in FPTP, as shitty as that is.
Instead of just voting 3rd party under FPTP, advocate for voting system reform like I do. Ranked Choice, Approval voting, etc. They are all objectively better than FPTP. They offer you the ability to vote for your most preferred candidates with less or no spoiler effect. Even in the worst case scenario in those systems, where every single person votes cynically for only a single candidate to “maximize” their candidate’s chances over similar candidates, that is still functionally identical to just returning to FPTP. Yes, our current system is literally the worst outcome of other systems. There has been some traction with this recently. As of 2022, 62 jurisdictions in the US adopted Ranked Choice voting. If everyone gets on board and calls for these reforms, they can and will eventually happen.
But as it is now, best case is your 3rd party vote wont make any difference and whoever was gonna win anyway wins without your vote. Worst case is your lack of vote for your preferred major party candidate contributes to the win of your least preferred candidate. It’s your vote, do what you will. But don’t pretend like the rest of us are rubes for behaving rationally with the existing voting system.
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To ensure that their lesser of two evils, from your point of view, is more likely to win (assuming you are in a state where they stand a chance). You are right to be frustrated with the system, but you can still have some say. Both parties/candidates are far from the same. The outcome of this election will affect you one way or another.
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I’m sorry the mods saw fit to remove your comments. While you may have used some unnecessarily insulting words, I don’t think the insults were way beyond civility. Nor do I think that your comments were without merit to your viewpoint, even though I think that viewpoint terribly cynical and misguided. I welcome more civil discussions in the future.
They admitted to being a shitposter. PoliticalMemes is not a shitpost community. That is why they got banned, and constantly accusing an entire political party of being “regime whores” is in bad faith and violates the rules, which is why they got their comments removed.
I welcome any and all civil discussion and debate. A line has to be drawn though. Civil discussion will always be tolerated.