![[email protected] mod silently bans people from their community for disagreeing, and tries to hide the comments from being seen in the modlog.](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/9f2537e4-bfdf-43b4-b12a-0012335d0d4d.webp){kind=link}
Hello I’m not a person who is affected by this community moderator but I’m posting on behalf of people who are, since they don’t seem to know of this community yet. I attempted to reach some via DM but I’m not sure they’ll respond. So I’m making this post since I feel this needs to be addressed.
Recently I was made aware of a community that appeared randomly on Lemmy.world. It seems to be a troll community given the type of content, but the reason I’m posting about it here specifically is that this mod seems to be banning anyone who points this out or goes against his narrative. Furthermore he is only using the autoremove on ban function, not removing any content the users have posted, which I believe is deliberate in attempt to prevent the content from showing up under the modlog and revealing the hypocrisy.
Some samples of comments:
Comment from: @[email protected]
Everything else you posted has been pretty cringe but what he fuck is up with this one, dude lol
comment from: @[email protected]
comment from: @[email protected]
First off, nice new community. I look forward to days of quality posts such as this./s
Second, how many Linux distros have this level of data collection, and what is their estimated market share?
All of these were retrieved from the API, even though they aren’t included in the modlogs, I could’ve included more but it’s kind of a time consuming process to look for them and retrieve them. Viewing removed comments is easier on Lemmy than it is on Reddit but it still isn’t easy.
What do you guys think, does this seem like power-tripping? Also does this person’s content seem like blatant troll content?
CC: @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected]
People who’s comments I mentioned, I CCed them so they know I did this on their behalf
Great points. Many Lemmy users think I’m a troll, because I have advocated for third parties in this year’s election. And well, I get accused of being a “russian bot” a lot too. lol
They say I post in bad faith. But I actually voted third party (socialist) and sent in my ballot this past weekend, I created and mod two socialist communities, and most of my posts skew socialist topics.
So if I believe what I am saying and posting, am I really arguing in bad faith or trolling just because the majority of Lemmy doesn’t agree with me?!
Is it really “bad faith” just because Lemmy tried, yet didn’t change my mind?
So many lately are quick to shout “Troll!” or “Sealioning” when it’s really just because the comment or post is an opinion not shared by a majority here.
In my opinion, what makes Lemmy better that Reddit (so far!), is that it’s NOT an echo chamber.
For the record, I had some comments removed for “sealioning” and I legit had never heard the term before Lemmy and I had to look it up to even understand it. And I’m still not sure what it has to do with sealion or why that term was chosen.
In fact, me saying I didn’t understand it, was the very comment that got removed for sealioning. lmao
There are so much drastically dishonest and untrue things in this comment, I’m not even sure where to start. No one cares what you share, they care about your obvious dishonesty in saying why you do it.
I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt, I tried to have a real dialogue, and you just double down on the trolling.
Such as? What is the obvious dishonesty?
Let me guess; me asking that question is “sealioning,” right? Is this where you are gonna reply with the sea lion comic?
You answer that with four of your own questions.
Such as?
What is the obvious dishonesty?
Let me guess, me asking that question is “sealioning,” right?
Is this where you are gonna reply with the sea lion comic?
It’s from a webcomic so yeah if you haven’t seen it then the connection seems strange. It’s just a random placeholder for a certain type of behavior, it has nothing to do with real sea lions.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning
Ok, I didn’t add onto my previous reply, because wasn’t sure if you have seen it or not.
So in another thread, someone is accusing me of sealioning right now. But I don’t think this is the proper use of it. This doesn’t seem to be what it is. I’m literally asking someone for proof of an accusation. And they aren’t giving it and I get this cartoon instead.
So are people just gonna say ‘sealioning’ anytime someone asks for proof or links now?!
Seems a misuse of the term as I know it. https://lemmy.world/comment/12941934
I’m probably not the right person to answer this because I think sealioning is another nebulous term that can mean a variety of things, similar to trolling. If you want to call someone out for bad behavior, I think you need to be specific about what they did in clear terms that everyone will understand.
But, to my understanding, demanding evidence for something perceived as obvious or self evident in a seemingly polite but deliberate attempt to annoy or waste people’s time is one form of sealioning. I’m not saying that’s what you did but perhaps it’s what they believe.
But that’s kind of the issue I was discussing here. What’s obvious to me may not be to you and vice-versa. So it’s hard or impossible to know if that’s what’s happening in any specific example.
Fair points! And that’s where I’m at on it. If someone is gonna accuse me, then show me the link where I said something attacking or whatever.
After I see the link, I have a better idea of why they are thinking something and I can either explain myself or realize my mistake, or agree to disagree.
But just dropping the comic when I’m asking for proof, seems absurd to me. If they wanna drop the comic in their comment with the link, cool, but at least I need to know what specific instance they are referring to.
Thank you!
So I am reading it, and I guess I am dull, but the description sounds like just “trolling” would work. And I look at the cartoon, and I don’t see the sea lion as being ingenious. I mean, the dude brought it up, the sea lion is calling him out on it.
So the fact I don’t get it, even after the toon, explains how I got in trouble for sealioning because the comic doesn’t seem like the seal is the bad guy. But the description is just trolling. So I don’t know the reason for the new term. I think trolling suffices.
EDIT: Fuck. Now everyone is going to think I’m sealioning because of this comment, aren’t they? lol sigh…
I think the sea lion in the comic is being criticized for being overly persistent in demanding evidence and a debate with people who never wanted to discuss anything with him. But yeah it’s a bit weird because they start the interaction by publicly criticizing the sea lion, so of course he wants to defend himself. And while it’s obviously over the line to pursue people demanding they debate you about something, that’s not really a thing that happens in online discourse—it’s easy enough to just ignore someone. So I’ve never found it a concept that makes much sense to me.
Thank you! Because online we can just block someone. I was beginning to think I was crazy on thinking people were overusing it. So thanks, friend!
In the seventy days since this account was created it has made five thousand seven hundred and fifty-eight submissions to Lemmy.
That averages out to once every seventeen minutes and thirty seconds, twenty-four hours a day seven days a week.
If they spend eight hours a day on Lemmy Monday to Friday that’s a a submission every four minutes and ten seconds.
I can’t tell if this is a weird joke or if you’re seeing something I’m not. When I click their profile I see a few hundred posts.
Look at it in the Lemmy.world instance, not all submissions are federated to yours.
I assure you my numbers are accurate.
OK, I’m just wary of taking anything you say at face value due to some past posts haha.
Fair.