I’d like to point out that “mental health counseling without any preconditions” is definitely bullshit. For free? Sure. Without preconditions? Nah.
Housing though? Available for everyone, sure, and compared to most other countries, the system is good. But it doesn’t mean it doesn’t have flaws in it and that we couldn’t improve.
I’m just here to point out people put Finland on a pedestal.
You shouldn’t. It’s not terrible in most ways, and pretty good in a lot of ways. But don’t idolise. Realism. It’s just different, so different problems as well.
And these people are already living on the housing which is the cheapest available. It’s basically just a convoluted excuse from the government for austerity to social security. Since none of the social security or the like are being reduced, they’ve just “indexed the calculation for reasonable living costs” or some shit, send out these letters, which people will reply to with “wtf do you think I can do, because moving would cost and there’s literally no cheaper housing available” and then Kela will go “oh well guess then you’re voluntarily taking a cut in your social security (so definitely don’t blame the government, blame the markets or whatever)?”. And that’s the point of it.
Do you want a three page essay on why I think these things are?
Because I have a lot of personal experience. Decades worth, in fact, and it’s no problem, but the reasons are not simple and it will take some reading from you, with a few quite incredible things, which I wouldn’t have believed if some random person had told me them online 15 years ago, but of which I have actual proof. On my body as well as photos, other recordings and official papers.
The on-call psychiatrist at the ER said “don’t try to make this my responsibility” when I literally went there to cry and beg for help while saying that I am actually afraid I’ll hurt myself or others.
A crisis helpline worker hung up on me, saying “you’re not in a crisis”.
I have both of these as recordings. They’re from the same day.
And that’s not even closest to the worst things I’ve seen / experienced
And this — people defaulting to “lol I won’t believe you” essentially when talking about this… it’s not great.
I’d like to point out that “mental health counseling without any preconditions” is definitely bullshit. For free? Sure. Without preconditions? Nah.
Housing though? Available for everyone, sure, and compared to most other countries, the system is good. But it doesn’t mean it doesn’t have flaws in it and that we couldn’t improve.
I’m just here to point out people put Finland on a pedestal.
You shouldn’t. It’s not terrible in most ways, and pretty good in a lot of ways. But don’t idolise. Realism. It’s just different, so different problems as well.
Kela (National Pension Institution) urges thousands to seek cheaper housing.
And these people are already living on the housing which is the cheapest available. It’s basically just a convoluted excuse from the government for austerity to social security. Since none of the social security or the like are being reduced, they’ve just “indexed the calculation for reasonable living costs” or some shit, send out these letters, which people will reply to with “wtf do you think I can do, because moving would cost and there’s literally no cheaper housing available” and then Kela will go “oh well guess then you’re voluntarily taking a cut in your social security (so definitely don’t blame the government, blame the markets or whatever)?”. And that’s the point of it.
I’m sorry that your dose of reality - countering a ‘paris effect’ but for Finland - earned you downvotes for … Truth?
Eh that’s classic lemmy. Will downvote anything that points at nuance.
They say that there should be preconditions for mental health treatment and then don’t remotely explain why.
Do you want a three page essay on why I think these things are?
Because I have a lot of personal experience. Decades worth, in fact, and it’s no problem, but the reasons are not simple and it will take some reading from you, with a few quite incredible things, which I wouldn’t have believed if some random person had told me them online 15 years ago, but of which I have actual proof. On my body as well as photos, other recordings and official papers.
Am I having an aneurysm rn?
I occasionally need heavy pharmaceutical aid for sleep. I wrote that while I woke up in the middle of my sleep.
The syntax might be fucked, I’ll admit that.
I would prefer that over no explanation, absolutely.
Let’s start of small, shall we.
The on-call psychiatrist at the ER said “don’t try to make this my responsibility” when I literally went there to cry and beg for help while saying that I am actually afraid I’ll hurt myself or others.
A crisis helpline worker hung up on me, saying “you’re not in a crisis”.
I have both of these as recordings. They’re from the same day.
And that’s not even closest to the worst things I’ve seen / experienced
And this — people defaulting to “lol I won’t believe you” essentially when talking about this… it’s not great.