• @DarkCloud
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    15 hours ago

    There wasn’t any good reason to vote no, other than you didn’t want rural Aboriginal people to be communicating with the Prime Minister… As that’s all the voice was really about.

    Also, a yes vote would have been a small step towards becoming a Republic.

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      The reasons I saw from the no campaign were 1. Unclear wording in the constitution 2. Bringing race into the constitution (either for all or none) 3. Lack of explanation as to how the changes, again to our constitution, would tangibly “close the gap”. I largely blame labour for it failing. Plenty of nos could have been yes if the campaign was more clear and informative imo but I don’t doubt racism played its part. Blaming it exclusively on racism and political apathy is disingenuous and certainly won’t inform people nor change their minds.

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        I feel like you could have sought out all that information though… So that’s not “reason” (which is what I said) - that’s you having further questions you could have answered with google, looking into it, and asking around the yes campaign.

        Sounds like you fell for the no campaign and were just too lazy to give things a second thought.

        P.S The constitution already contains stuff about “race” and identifies Aboriginal Australians as distinct from people who came here. It’s always had race in it …hence your argument that it “will bring race into the constitution” - is again just you not questioning the no campaign.

        People being lazy and not bothering to find shit out isn’t the same as “having a reason” to vote no. It IS a reason a lot of people voted no, but that’s not the same as having had a legitimate reason to.

      • Zagorath
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        The campaign was plenty clear. People just didn’t want to hear it. “Don’t know, vote no” worked, even though the right response to “don’t know” is “do a modicum of fucking research”.

    • @Naryn
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      There wasn’t any good reason to vote no

      Voting yes was explicitly voting for racial supremacy.

      • @DarkCloud
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        17 hours ago

        Rightwingers always have these stupid teleological arguments that just completely jump the gun to extreme “civilization ending” conclusion that are never ever not even once accurate or even remotely true and it looks dumb as dogshit ever single time.

        Social welfare is Communism!
        Gender equality will cause the fall of Rome!
        Immigration is white genocide!

        And what’s this, a new contender; the Yes vote was explicitly going to create a racial supremacist society!

        No, the PM would just have to listen to some Aboriginal leaders now… Wouldn’t have to agree, or do what they said. Just he’d be mandated to every now and then, listen to the people we stole the country from.

        • @Naryn
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          13 hours ago

          No, the PM would just have to listen to some Aboriginal leaders now…

          The vote was about giving a portion of society additional power to create rights for people based solely on their ethnicity.

          Yes, that’s racial supremacy.

          listen to the people we stole the country from.

          The fact that you say “we stole the country from” whilst complaining about the right jumping to telological arguments is fucking hilariously ironic.

          We didn’t do anything. Not a single Australian alive today was even born under British rule, let alone during the actual colonisation period