• @BluesF
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    129 days ago

    AI doesn’t have a mind to do mental leaps, it only knows syntax. Just a form of syntax so, so advanced that it sometimes accidentally gets things factually correct. Sometimes.

    • @Archpawn
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      128 days ago

      It’s more advanced than just syntax. It should be able to understand the double meanings behind riddles. Or at the very least, that books don’t have scales, even if it doesn’t understand that the scales that a piano has aren’t the same as the ones a fish has.

      • @BluesF
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        328 days ago

        It doesn’t understand anything. It predicts a word based on previous words - this is why I called it syntax. If you imagine a huge and vastly complicated series of rules about how likely one word is to follow up to, say, 1000 others… That’s an LLM.

        • @Archpawn
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          027 days ago

          It can predict that the word “scales” is unlikely to appear near “books”. Do you understand what I mean now? Sorry, neural networks can’t understand things. Can you make predictions based on what senses you received now?

          • @BluesF
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            227 days ago

            Well given that an LLM produced the nonsense riddle above, obviously it cannot predict that. It can predict the structure of a riddle perfectly well, it can even get the rhyming right! But the extra layer of meaning involved in a riddle is beyond what LLMs are able to do at the moment. At least, all of them that I’ve seen - they all seem to fall flat with this level of abstraction.

            • @Archpawn
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              125 days ago

              It shows that one failed that time. I just asked ChatGPT. I can’t be sure how original the riddle is. It’s possible it copied the description of the double meaning from somewhere. But it looks like it understood it, and based on how LLMs work, there’s no reason it shouldn’t.

              Make an original riddle. Explain the double meaning behind it.

              Riddle: I hold many keys, yet open no doors. I sing without voice, yet keep perfect scores. Though I’m struck, I never feel pain; What am I, in sun or rain?

              Answer: A piano.

              Explanation of Double Meaning:

              Literal Interpretation
                  “Hold many keys, yet open no doors” refers to the piano's keyboard, which holds musical keys instead of physical keys for doors.
                  “Sing without voice, yet keep perfect scores” alludes to how a piano produces sound through musical notes (without a voice) and follows written scores (musical notation).
                  “Though I’m struck, I never feel pain” describes how piano strings are struck by hammers to create sound, but, of course, the piano doesn’t feel.
              
              Play on Words
                  Keys are often associated with doors, but here, they reference musical notes.
                  Scores traditionally refer to results or outcomes, but in this context, they represent musical compositions.
                  Struck typically implies being hit and possibly feeling pain, yet here, it refers to the mechanical action within a piano that produces music.
              

              Each line has a figurative layer connected to musical terms, creating a double meaning based on the dual use of “keys,” “scores,” and “struck.”

      • Wandering Star
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        126 days ago

        @Archpawn @BluesF I once asked an AI to write me the Hermione Ship of Theseus, and it was a gloriously twisted thing that veered between philosophy 101 and surrealist fanfic.