• @PugJesusM
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    154 days ago

    “There are no hard feelings because Britain made Australia do it”

    Funniest and most accurate line in the whole thing

    Only read if you want to cry

    “Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives… you are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore, rest in peace. There is no difference between the Johnnies and the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side here in this country of ours… You the mothers who sent their sons from far away countries wipe away your tears. Your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well.” - quote attributed to Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, the Turkish commander at Gallipoli

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kemal_Atatürk_Memorial,_Canberra

    Also, not our fault we Americans thought of bringing a barstool instead of our damn bare hands 😎

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      Russia gets thrown through another one, gets knocked out, suffers brain damage, and wakes up with a complete personality change

      I thought that was a hilarious take on the end of the Tsars/Bolshevik Revolution

      Edit: That’s a fantastic quote from Ataturk, holy crap!

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        He was in the thick of it too. His headquarters were only a few hundred meters from the front lines at Gallipoli, so he saw all the ugliness up close. Really hammers home just how pointless it all was, but also how much humanity we all share.

        Another heartbreaking Gallipoli story, this one from an ANZAC officer

        Our men and the Turks began fraternizing, exchanging badges, etc. I had to keep them apart. At 4 o’clock the Turks came to me for orders. I do not believe this could have happened anywhere else. I retired their troops and ours, walking along the line. At 4.7 I retired the white-flag men, making them shake hands with our men. Then I came to the upper end. About a dozen Turks came out. I chaffed them, and said that they would shoot me next day. They said, in a horrified chorus: “God forbid!” The Albanians laughed and cheered, and said: “We will never shoot you.” Then the Australians began coming up, and said: “Good-bye old chap; good luck!” And the Turks said: “Oghur Ola gule gule gedejekseniz, gule gule gelejekseniz” (“Smiling may you go and smiling come again”). Then I told them all to get into their trenches, and unthinkingly went up to the Turkish trench and got a deep salaam from it. I told them that neither side would fire for twenty-five minutes after they had got into the trenches. One Turks was seen out away on our left, but there was nothing to be done, and I think he was all right. A couple of rifles had gone off about twenty minutes before the end but Potts and I went hurriedly to and fro seeing it was all right. At last we dropped into our trenches, glad that the strain was over. I walked back with Temperley. I got some raw whisky for the infection in my throat, and iodine for where the barbed wire had torn my feet. There was a hush over the Peninsula.

        Take the men out of the war for a few minutes, and they’re just boys, with the same mothers and same feelings, identical to one another.

        • NegativeNullOP
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          74 days ago

          That is unbelievably sad, and sweet

    • NegativeNullOP
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      54 days ago

      Seriously, that quote is moving me to literal tears still. God damn

      • @PugJesusM
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        44 days ago

        First time I read it I wept, entirely unexpectedly. I’m not even Australian, or Turkish. Those last two lines hit particularly hard.

        • NegativeNullOP
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          74 days ago

          Ataturk is such a fascinating character, that seems entirely unknown to so many. He’s hardly even celebrated in modern Turkey.

          • @PugJesusM
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            64 days ago

            Not that long ago he still held near-demigod status. I’m not real informed about the modern state of things on that front, but I’m given to understand the Islamist-oriented AKP has been trying to quietly move away from Ataturk and his secular legacy since the mid-2000s. Don’t know how successful that’s actually been, but it’s definitely quieter now.

            • NegativeNullOP
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              64 days ago

              The modern Turkish government is pushing back against the ideals he setup a century ago. It’s sad.