• @the_toast_is_gone
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    -76 hours ago

    With the number of rockets Hamas and Hezbollah has launched into Israel during “peacetime” while being supplied by Iran, they’re doing a great job of staying enemies.

    • @DeLacue
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      114 hours ago

      Did you know that the Gazan bomb disposal teams are some of the most skilled in the world? The reason for this is so they can disarm and disassemble unexploded Israeli bombs so that the explosives can be repurposed and fired back. So a surprisingly large portion of the explosives that Hamas used were supplied by Israel via their long-term sporadic bombing of Gaza and anything resembling major infrastructure.

      • @the_toast_is_gone
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        -54 hours ago

        Impressive feat. But Iran is still aiding and abetting Hamas’s military campaign against Israel.

        • @AgentDalePoopster
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          134 hours ago

          Well maybe Israel should stop its brutal, decades-long apartheid campaign that’s pissing off all of its neighbors and pre-dates Hamas by around 50 years.

          • @the_toast_is_gone
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            -84 hours ago

            How many of these brutal wars were started by Israel completely unprovoked, and how many of them were started because Israel’s neighbors F-ed around before finding out?

            • @AgentDalePoopster
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              114 hours ago

              I’m not talking about wars. I’m talking about Israeli apartheid, all of which was and continues to be enacted exclusively by Israel.

            • Cethin
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              Arguably, all of them involving Israel were started by Israel. Colonists coming in and buying the farm, then refusing to hire the local non-jews who traditionally worked there, is going to provoke a response. They knew this, and it’s why they formed militias to attack them and use the response as justification to expand militarily. These militias were formed into the IDF when Israel officially became a nation.

              Sure, you can also argue that buying up the land and not hiring the locals was “their right” but you can’t really complain when people lose their ability to survive because some foreigners come in and take away their jobs.

              Israel has continued this policy of forcing a response from their neighbors and then using this as justification to use much more force to take more territory. Its not happening by accident. It’s a strategic move by Israel to provoke their neighbors, yet somehow people like you say the neighbors should have done nothing. Maybe Israel should do nothing. Who’s justified?

        • NoneOfUrBusiness
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          64 hours ago

          But Iran is still aiding and abetting Hamas’s military campaign against Israel.

          You say aiding and abetting like supporting anti-colonial resistance is a bad thing.

    • NoneOfUrBusiness
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      115 hours ago

      Good job putting peacetime in quotes, because during that “peacetime” Israel was airstriking Gaza and blockading it. These are straight up acts of war and justify and demand retaliation. Also Hezbollah didn’t launch rockets on Israel before October 7th.

      • SaltySalamander
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        -35 hours ago

        Lol, not being an Israel apologist here, but Hezbollah has been launching rockets at Israel since they were formed.

        • Sami
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          55 hours ago

          Into Lebanese (some consider it Syrian, doesn’t change the dynamic) occupied territory before and after Oct 7th. Gradual escalation (with 80% of those attacks coming from Israeli side) expanded the scale of the northern/southern front to what we see today. Israel has killed 2 orders of magnitude more civilians than Hezballah has and has sought escalation at every stage.

          Before Oct 7th, they would exchange fire in occupied Lebanese land and tensions would rise then fizzle out about once a month.

            • Sami
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              74 hours ago

              Israel should stop occupying territory in violation of dozens of international resolutions and blocking the establishment of a Palestinian state. Belligerent occupiers are in no position to be “provoked” by those who they are occupying. How many wars do the Palestinians get to wage because of the nakba (or countless other massacres) and subsequent colonization of remaining territory?

              • @the_toast_is_gone
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                -53 hours ago

                This has all started because of an initial attempt at genocidal war against Israel and, following that, decades of attacks on the Jewish people.

                • Sami
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                  53 hours ago

                  Incredible how Israel poofs into existence in your framing. I hope you one day see the humanity of others. Goodbye.

                  • @the_toast_is_gone
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                    -43 hours ago

                    It’s odd how three genocidal powers well known for their human rights abuses are completely correct in every atrocity they’ve committed in the last century. Have a nice day, it was good talking to you.

            • NoneOfUrBusiness
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              54 hours ago

              They should… not subject people to Apartheid and ethnically cleanse them. That’d help.

              The initial plan of the militants was to seize a luxury hotel in the Israeli city of Tel Aviv and take tourists and foreign ambassadors hostage to exchange them for Palestinian prisoners in Israeli custody.

              Also you say Lebanon but what the fuck do you mean by “Lebanon”? They literally had a civil war at the time. Who exactly are you assigning blame to here and why does that excuse Israel expanding their Apartheid and massacres to another country?

              • @the_toast_is_gone
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                01 hour ago

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                Ah yes, that makes it so much better. It’s a shame it ended in the deaths of 32 innocent people.

                And would you prefer I had specified the PLO in that post? A major power in the area?

        • NoneOfUrBusiness
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          15 hours ago

          They have a long blood soaked history that had mostly ended with the second Israeli invasion of Lebanon in 2006 before restarting last year.