• @the_toast_is_gone
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    -725 days ago

    Apparently Hamas didn’t moderate themselves enough to not kill 1,200 people on October 7th.

    • @Maggoty
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      525 days ago

      Because Israel showed them they didn’t get anything for moderation. Just more suffering.

        • @Maggoty
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          725 days ago

          And? Israel has been killing, starving, and holding Palestinians without charge for decades. Oh and we’ve found out there’s rape in there too. Because of course there is.

          If you want to trot out crimes we’re going to be here all night. Only one side has the power to step back and stop the cycle of violence. But it’s working for Israel, they’re slowly assimilating Palestine.

          • @the_toast_is_gone
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            -224 days ago

            It’s been a long and bloody conflict since Israel’s inception. But does any of this justify Hamas and Hezbollah killing/kidnapping Israeli civilians? Hamas wasn’t forced to do October 7th, or to fire off over 10,000 rockets since then. Hezbollah wasn’t forced to fire off rockets in solidarity with them. Neither of those things is stopping the cycle of violence. To suggest the onus is entirely on Israel is absolving these two literal terrorist groups of their responsibilities.

            • @Maggoty
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              424 days ago

              The suggestion is that they won’t stop until Israel does. Roll over and let the genocide happen isn’t a realistic peace plan.

              • @the_toast_is_gone
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                -324 days ago

                And allowing Hamas to continue killing people with impunity isn’t realistic either.

                • @Maggoty
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                  324 days ago

                  It’s almost like we need some kind of negotiated peace wherein Israel actually backs all the way off for the first time since 1967.

                  (Checks Hamas’ charter) Oh look that’s what Hamas’ stated goal is.

                  • @the_toast_is_gone
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                    -224 days ago

                    And raping/killing over 1,000 people and taking over 200 hostages is clearly the best way to achieve peace.