The atmosphere is so heated, and the statements are getting more and more extreme. Let’s just assume Harris wins the election. After a campaign like this, how could you ever have a normal relationship with your pro-Trump neighbor/father-in-law/Uncle/Barber or what ever again?

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    Good man? No. Better than Trump? Yes. That is not a high bar. As far as I am aware, Dubya didn’t cheat on his wife with a pornstar, then embezzle money to silence so he could win an election, all the while talking about taking advantage of his fame so he can molest women.

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      Well it’s good to see that a million dead Iraqis is definitely not worse than fucking pornstars and embezzlement…

      That’s dark dude, like holy shit your sense of morality and justice is so bent that I’m blown away.

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        Trump has not been in a situation where he can declare war on Iraq. He has been in a situation where he can threaten to pull support from Ukraine if they don’t help him rig an election, and has said Biden is too hard on Israel. So they’re the same on morals in that regard, if not opportunities.

        But both of them have been in elections. So with the same baseline situation, Trump is worse.

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          You’re comparing tangibles to intangibles, hypotheticals, and combining it with a very confused sense of morality.

          The fact that you can’t see past Trump to understand that actually killing one million human beings is worse then anything he did, is depressing.

          Do you not understand that Trump can be a malignant tumor and dangerous all on his own, without having to pretend that anything he did even remotely compares to directly killing 1 million innocent people?

          Or maybe you don’t care because they’re Arab? I know you’ll balk at that, throw out all the right signifiers, and maybe even throw a “how dare you” my way, but I’m not left with many other options to understand to your rational.

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            Yes, Trump hasn’t killed a million people. Trump was not the president in the days after 9/11, where the majority of americans supported a war on Iraq. Trump did not have the same opportunity to kill a million people that Bush did.

            However, we can see Trump’s opinions on Palestine. We can see Trump’s opinions on Ukraine. We can see just as much malicious support of genocide as Bush had, if not more. The only difference is the opportunity to act on it.

            So I won’t use the Iraq war as a marker of morality. That’s not a fair comparison.

            I will instead judge them based on a situation that both of them had, where only one of them took it. Bush had the opportunity to cheat on his wife and embezzle campaign funds to hide it. Bush had the opportunity to hide government secrets in his private residence. Bush did not do these things.

            Please note that being better than Trump is such a fucking low bar, it’s astonishing you think that means I’m saying Bush isn’t a piece of shit. Less repugnant than Trump is still fucking repugnant.