• the_toast_is_gone
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    1 year ago

    And raping/killing over 1,000 people and taking over 200 hostages is clearly the best way to achieve peace.

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      1 year ago

      Not in our minds, but we aren’t in their shoes. We haven’t lived in an open air prison our entire lives watching a foreign power wantonly murder, torture, and rape our friends.

      And it certainly has done wonders for attention to Israel’s crimes.

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        1 year ago

        If raping and murdering people is an acceptable way to bring attention to issues, then the Russian invasion of Ukraine under the pretense of eliminating anti-Russian bias and removing Nazi influence in their government. You and I both know that’s a ridiculous statement, but it follows logically from yours.

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          1 year ago

          It does not follow logically because Ukraine is fully incapable of blockading and raiding Russia at will. At least until Russia forced them to militarize by invading them in 2014.

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            1 year ago

            Ukraine’s capabilities wouldn’t change whether Russia’s invasion was unjust. If they were a corrupt nation run by neo-Nazis (they aren’t) and Russia wanted to draw attention to it, then they’d be justified in attacking Ukraine.

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              1 year ago

              Then you have completely missed the point of resistance ideology.

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                1 year ago

                I don’t really know what “resistance ideology” is. Are otherwise-heinous actions acceptable if they come from a weaker party? Is this that power-plus-prejudice thing again?

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                  1 year ago

                  Maybe go read a bit on that and see what it does for your understanding of the Isreal-Palestinian conflict.

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                    1 year ago

                    I found this article, which specifically states:

                    Under international law the right to resist excludes recourse to violence against civilians.

                    That sounds to me like Hamas isn’t allowed to kill civilians. Do I understand that correctly?