This instance has defederated from hexbear.net for violating our rules against propaganda as outlined in our Terms of Service. If you are unfamiliar, federation means two servers sync and host each other’s content. Defederation stops us from syncing their content to our server.

  • @[email protected]
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    -2629 days ago

    no one’s arguing that they can’t make up their own rules.

    also let people on other instances believe whatever they want; it has no bearing on you and you can block them and entire instances for yourself if you need to.

    i don’t want power tripping mods/admins or suppressive policies to make that decision for me; that’s why so many people and I left reddit; i’m an adult who can make up my own mind and the lemmyverse already has the tools to empower me to do so.

    this isn’t reddit or a walled garden; in the fediverse it’s the vegetables section of a community garden that was designed to maximize cross pollination and defederation episodes like this are like trying to install a permeable gate that don’t stop that cross pollination.

    • Corgana
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      2729 days ago

      The concept of defederation is literally the single most important core feature differentiating the Fediverse from centralized social media. I find it interesting that you feel employing it to be antithetical to the concept of federated networks.

      • @[email protected]
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        -2329 days ago

        Yes it was and its misapplication in targeting the same group repeatedly is laying bare its flaws and that’s why it doesn’t work

        • Corgana
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          29 days ago

          Hexbear is still online and available to anyone who wants to read the content so I’m confused as to what point you’re trying to make. If you want users to be forced to interact with other users that’s what Reddit is for.

          • @[email protected]
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            -1829 days ago

            defederation is creating bubbles with communities that have little to no activity & content and that’s going to drive away more people than any tankie ever could.

            • @[email protected]
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              2029 days ago

              Could it be that the behavior of hexbears created the bubble?

              Perhaps most groups don’t want to associate with fascist apologists.

              • Corgana
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                1129 days ago

                Literally how it was designed! I will never understand the people who think “free speech” means everyone else has to be forced to listen to them.

                  • @[email protected]
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                    -1229 days ago

                    defederation doesn’t do this. it was mean to; but it doesn’t work as it was intended.

                    doing so only excludes your community from the main group chat that everyone else can see, which empowers them over you in addition to creating those inactive/no-content subs for your community.

                    so nothing about this situation is working as designed.

                    and to answer your other glib comment: star trek matters to me so i don’t want to see this instance wither away from lack of content. that’s why i’m trying despite the toxic attempts to shoot the messenger.

        • @[email protected]
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          627 days ago

          If that same group would stop repeatedly evading bans and defeds then it wouldn’t keep happening, but since tankies’ entire existence is predicated on proselytizing to unwilling “heretics” and being as rude as they possibly can while doing it because, like the mormons, it isn’t about actually getting converts it’s about getting people to hate them so they can feed their persecution complex, here we are.