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Everyone loves invoking the paradox of tolerance because it makes you sound smart and progressive.
Paradoxically, it’s most often used as an excuse to be intolerant of some group that you have arbitrarily branded as intolerant.
I hereby pronounce you intolerant, thereby according to the docterine of the paradox of tolerance you are forthwith stripped of your right to be tolerated.
As always, the problem is nuanced and you need to consider carefully the extent to which you’re willing to tolerate what level of intolerance under what circumstances.
lol imagine thinking being labeled a part of a hate group is arbitrary, funny how I’ve never had random people use labels like nazi on me, if you find yourself getting these ‘arbitrary’ labels thrown at you often maybe it’s time for some self reflection
worse imagine thinking this while the party has major figures wearing proud boy colors, using proud boy slogans, openly admiring fascist figures like hitler and throwing fucking nazi salutes
‘arbitrary’
you’re a fucking joke
because now I can’t reply to your joke of a comment
when I start talking about loving hitler or kim jon ung or hitler or xi we can talk
stop trying to downplay what the republican party has done in public
You understand that every conservative would use all sorts of labels to describe you right? Trump would refer to you as “the radical left”. He would also say you’re intolerant of his followers.
It takes a complete lack of self awareness to think that no one would label you in the same way you label others. Well done.
The label isn’t arbitrary when you’ve earned it by how you act. You have decided to arbitrarily label your opponent here as “intolerable” based on no evidence. Conservatives at large have been labeled “intolerable” based on their abject refusal to support basic protections of human rights and safety, bad-faith arguments, bait and switching, lying directly to the faces of their constituents as well as to other lawmakers who require an assumption of trust in order to operate, and actively and frequently calling for violence and murder against non-violent members of the out-group.
Your rights end where mine begin and vice versa, and overstepping those bounds causes the social contract to be voided. When you void your own social contract then you are personally responsible for whatever happens outside of the protection of that contract. Don’t want to get punched in the face? It’s real easy then, don’t tell me that my sister deserves to be murdered. Like will be met with like.
Conservatives at large have been labeled “intolerable” based on their abject refusal to support basic protections of human rights and safety, bad-faith arguments, bait and switching, lying directly to the faces of their constituents as well as to other lawmakers who require an assumption of trust in order to operate, and actively and frequently calling for violence and murder against non-violent members of the out-group.
This sentence contains the problem discussed at length in the wikipedia article and addressed in my original comment.
You’ve made a sweeping generalisation about conservatives, by applying a range of very specific behaviors to an entire out-group in a categorical and binary way.
To really dumb it down, some conservatives might just be idiots, and not actually intolerant. You’re seeking to weild the paradox of intolerance against them.
Whether or not you’re an idiot has little bearing on whether or not you’re able to treat other human beings like human beings. The golden rule is taught to preschoolers and they pick it up just fine. If someone’s argument regarding being a bigoted liar is “I’m actually too stupid to understand what tolerance means”, I have zero sympathy for them. “Keep out of my business and I’ll keep out of yours” is a concept so simple that animals understand it. You’re god damn right I’m going to wield the paradox of tolerance against idiots, because regardless of whether or not you’re doing it out of spite or doing it out of stupidity, you’re breaking the social contract and you will reap the consequences of such. If you’re so abjectly stupid that you don’t know what human rights are or how to respect them, then you have a duty both as a citizen and as a human being to educate yourself, and failure to do so excuses nothing.
You seem genuinely oblivious to how intolerant you are.
As though you have a list of “social crimes” and when you, being the judge and jury, find someone guilty of being intolerant they’re green lit to be “untolerated”.
This is exactly what I was talking about when I said that the paradox of tolerance is mostly used as justification for not tolerating people you personally deem to be intolerant.
If protecting the innocent from evil that will exploit them for its own gain makes me a bad person, then I just guess I’ll see you in hell, motherfucker.
paradox of tolerance
you can only achieve a fair and civil society by removing those unwilling to keep the social contract
Everyone loves invoking the paradox of tolerance because it makes you sound smart and progressive.
Paradoxically, it’s most often used as an excuse to be intolerant of some group that you have arbitrarily branded as intolerant.
I hereby pronounce you intolerant, thereby according to the docterine of the paradox of tolerance you are forthwith stripped of your right to be tolerated.
As always, the problem is nuanced and you need to consider carefully the extent to which you’re willing to tolerate what level of intolerance under what circumstances.
good job ignoring the part about the social contract
I’m not talking about 80s republicans here. John McCain deserves civility, fucking nazis and proud boys don’t
Good job ignoring the part about arbitrary labels.
Nazis and proud boys often self-identify. And still enjoy the respect and understanding that centrists deny to anyone on their left.
lol imagine thinking being labeled a part of a hate group is arbitrary, funny how I’ve never had random people use labels like nazi on me, if you find yourself getting these ‘arbitrary’ labels thrown at you often maybe it’s time for some self reflection
worse imagine thinking this while the party has major figures wearing proud boy colors, using proud boy slogans, openly admiring fascist figures like hitler and throwing fucking nazi salutes
‘arbitrary’
you’re a fucking joke
because now I can’t reply to your joke of a comment
when I start talking about loving hitler or kim jon ung or hitler or xi we can talk
stop trying to downplay what the republican party has done in public
no one is buying your both side same bullshit
You understand that every conservative would use all sorts of labels to describe you right? Trump would refer to you as “the radical left”. He would also say you’re intolerant of his followers.
It takes a complete lack of self awareness to think that no one would label you in the same way you label others. Well done.
The label isn’t arbitrary when you’ve earned it by how you act. You have decided to arbitrarily label your opponent here as “intolerable” based on no evidence. Conservatives at large have been labeled “intolerable” based on their abject refusal to support basic protections of human rights and safety, bad-faith arguments, bait and switching, lying directly to the faces of their constituents as well as to other lawmakers who require an assumption of trust in order to operate, and actively and frequently calling for violence and murder against non-violent members of the out-group.
Your rights end where mine begin and vice versa, and overstepping those bounds causes the social contract to be voided. When you void your own social contract then you are personally responsible for whatever happens outside of the protection of that contract. Don’t want to get punched in the face? It’s real easy then, don’t tell me that my sister deserves to be murdered. Like will be met with like.
This sentence contains the problem discussed at length in the wikipedia article and addressed in my original comment.
You’ve made a sweeping generalisation about conservatives, by applying a range of very specific behaviors to an entire out-group in a categorical and binary way.
To really dumb it down, some conservatives might just be idiots, and not actually intolerant. You’re seeking to weild the paradox of intolerance against them.
Whether or not you’re an idiot has little bearing on whether or not you’re able to treat other human beings like human beings. The golden rule is taught to preschoolers and they pick it up just fine. If someone’s argument regarding being a bigoted liar is “I’m actually too stupid to understand what tolerance means”, I have zero sympathy for them. “Keep out of my business and I’ll keep out of yours” is a concept so simple that animals understand it. You’re god damn right I’m going to wield the paradox of tolerance against idiots, because regardless of whether or not you’re doing it out of spite or doing it out of stupidity, you’re breaking the social contract and you will reap the consequences of such. If you’re so abjectly stupid that you don’t know what human rights are or how to respect them, then you have a duty both as a citizen and as a human being to educate yourself, and failure to do so excuses nothing.
You seem genuinely oblivious to how intolerant you are.
As though you have a list of “social crimes” and when you, being the judge and jury, find someone guilty of being intolerant they’re green lit to be “untolerated”.
This is exactly what I was talking about when I said that the paradox of tolerance is mostly used as justification for not tolerating people you personally deem to be intolerant.
If protecting the innocent from evil that will exploit them for its own gain makes me a bad person, then I just guess I’ll see you in hell, motherfucker.
This just isn’t a thing.
Of course it is.
That’s exactly how it’s being used here.
It’s just that you don’t want to tolerate the people this comment is targeting.