After giving in to Putin/Xi’s demands to not provide starlink internet service over Taiwan, DOD officials are growing nervous about trusting Elon’s Space company with our national secrets

  • Flying Squid
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    721 days ago

    No, not everything needs to be nationalized.

    Good thing no one said everything, just a rocket company that NASA wouldn’t need to outsource to anymore since they would have the facilities to make all the rockets they wanted themselves.

    • @mipadaitu
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      321 days ago

      Problem is that if SpaceX becomes part of NASA, then it’ll be like the space shuttle. It’ll need parts made by every small company that contributed to some random representative in every state, so we’ll end up with 300+ contractors all building critical components.

      • Flying Squid
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        121 days ago

        Why can’t it source those things the same way SpaceX does now?

        • @mipadaitu
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          121 days ago

          It could, but that’s not how these types of programs get run. They’re as much about making jobs in specific areas as they are about solving a problem.

          • Flying Squid
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            521 days ago

            That’s not a very convincing argument. The U.S. has never nationalized a company like SpaceX before. We have no idea how it would be run.

            I don’t find the libertarian “everything the government does is inefficient and corrupt” ideas very compelling.

            • @mipadaitu
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              221 days ago

              You’re putting words in my mouth and exaggerating my statements. Just look at how the NASA manned space programs have run since the start, AND how they are currently run. Congress puts a lot of stipulations on how they are manufactured. NASA has a big problem with congressional interference.

              Their science/unmanned programs are different, because congress is more hands off. Those are running just fine. The problem is that SpaceX is a huge cost and has a lot of manufacturing and jobs associated with it. That invites congressional interference.

              Not only that, but they also have a large commercial presence already with the Starlink. The government doesn’t typically run things like that, so they’ll probably sell of the Starlink portion of the company.

              It’s not a conspiracy, it’s not libertarian-ism, it’s just how NASA is run. Once the budgets get into the billions, congress can’t keep their hands off it.

              Yes, there are certainly problems with the Commercial Crew program right now, just look at how Starliner is run. We probably won’t get a capsule from Boeing, because they don’t have an incentive to finish, due to the fact that it’s not a cost+ program like the SLS is. SLS is also constrained by politics, they are required to use so many Shuttle parts, just to keep those sub-contractors happy.