• @HomerianSymphony
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    Everyone is going to be impacted by this election.

    If Trump is elected, we’ll be on a path to dictatorship and civil war. If Harris is elected, we’re on a path to World War III.

    No American is escaping the consequences of this one.

    • @WrenFeathers
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      If Harris is elected, we’re on a path to World War III.

      Nothing about this statement is even remotely true.

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      why does harris mean world war 3?

      is it because of funneling weapons to israel? because trump has promised to do that too. and has also promised NOT to work for a ceasefire.

      • @barsquid
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        112 months ago

        On reflection they probably mean Donald would ensure Ukraine is taken over, which is true. I suppose that means delaying WWIII until Russia’s next invasion.

        They must have forgotten Donald tweeting (nuclear?) threats at Iran from the Oval Office. Or they don’t think that would be a World War situation.

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        I think he was talking about big scary Pootin, threatening for the undecillionth time to push the big scary red button. Don’t think about Pootin being to scared to even call for a mobilization, just ignore that he’d rather throw north koreans into the meat grinder than his own voter base, because he’s scared of them. Just ignore that. Focus on that big red scary button. WW3 around the corner!

      • @kreskin
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        -22 months ago

        It could also be because the US is standing alone against more or less the entire world in supporting Israels genocide.

      • @LotrOrc
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        Ah yes Harris is totally working towards a ceasefire

        Like the one that Hamas just rejected because it did not call for Israel to stop bombing or for it to withdraw troops or for Palestinians to be able to return to their homes

        Yes definitely a ceasefire if you let one side keep bombing

      • @HomerianSymphony
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        Basically, Harris is a war hawk. When she accepted the DNC’s nomination, she promised America would have the world’s most lethal fighting force.

        On Ukraine, when they were asked about it in the debate, Trump emphasized the need to negotiate peace. Harris emphasized unconditional support for Ukraine.

        Yes, there’s not a lot of daylight between Trump and Harris’s statements on Israel. But Trump’s statements were made before the conflict escalated to involve Lebanon, and I’m not actually sure if he even means what he says. Harris has maintained her commitment to Israel as the conflict has escalated, and even as it has generated discord in her party. I definitely believe that her commitment to Israel is sincere.

        On China, it’s hard to be certain about Harris’s personal views, but the Biden administration that she is part of has escalated tensions in the Taiwan Strait. Trump, in stark contrast, is reported to have questioned the value of supporting Taiwan at all. (I’m not saying the US should abandon efforts at maintaining peace in the Taiwan Strait. But the US should definitely not be escalating tensions either.) Right now there’s no reason to believe Harris differs from Biden on the issue, especially considering her hawkish tendencies elsewhere.

        • @[email protected]
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          You are naive if you think giving countries who threaten war or even start them everything they want and more is going to decrease the chance of more of the same.

            • @HomerianSymphony
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              What does it tell you that those are the same side?

              • @[email protected]
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                In what fucking world do people who unquestioningly believe Russian propaganda qualify as “uncompromising pacifists”?

                • @HomerianSymphony
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                  I don’t actually know what vatnik means. I was guessing from context that it meant Communist or leftist or something.

                  • @[email protected]
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                    72 months ago

                    We’re on the internet, bro. You have a search engine right fucking there. I didn’t know what vatnik meant either until I googled it 20 seconds ago. What is your excuse?

          • @HomerianSymphony
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            -142 months ago

            I said nothing about giving any country everything that they want.

            And Biden had plenty of opportunity to de-escalate the situation in the Donbas before it resulted in war, and he escalated it instead, just as he escalated the situation in the Taiwan Strait.

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              Yet what you’re suggesting is to appease dictators whenever they issue threats and attack countries. Gee that worked so well with Georgia, Crimea, and now the rest. Putin is a war criminal, a crook and an incompetent statesman (see the deteriorating Russian economy years up until the Ukraine war). They were always going to steal land like the cancerous leech they really are.

              • @HomerianSymphony
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                Yet what you’re suggesting is to appease dictators whenever they issue threats and attack countries.

                No, I was suggesting to de-escalate tensions and resolve territorial disputes peacefully and democratically before they spill over into armed conflict.

            • @kreskin
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              22 months ago

              I wish he’d done more. Neither Russia or China or both of them combined would do well against the US, even without NATO. They wont start a conflict.

              • @HomerianSymphony
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                Neither Russia or China or both of them combined would do well against the US, even without NATO.

                I suspect the opposite, but I’m hoping we never find out.

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          102 months ago

          and I’m not actually sure if he even means what he says.

          don’t you think it says something that this is the only excuse people who defend trump can come up with anymore

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      We’re on a path to WW3 anyway, trumps entire mandate from his handlers is to destabilize the US before things kick off so we’re in a weak position

    • @DontRedditMyLemmy
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      32 months ago

      I’m expecting at least some rioting if Trump loses. Just stocked up on booze and popcorn so I can ride this week out.

    • LeadersAtWork
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      22 months ago

      Oh, it’s you again. Still shoving these baseless claims down everyone’s throats. Come now, my dude, we talked about this.