• KillingTimeItself
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    1618 hours ago

    would someone like to explain to me why dem turnouts were SO FUCKING ASS this cycle?

    Did you guys just like, forget to vote? What the fuck happened?

      • @jmsy
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        26 hours ago

        Very few voters care about what is happening in Israel. A poll (I think msnbc) weeks before the election showed about 2% of voters considered it a “top 3” issue for them.

          • @jmsy
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            44 hours ago

            Americans and most of the world don’t care what’s happening in Israel. As a yank living abroad and often traveling for work (conferences, support, sales) It’s typically viewed as an extension of a 30 year conflict, extended on an 80 year conflict, extended on a 1500 year old conflict. In otherwords, it’s “passe.” it’s boring because it’s the norm. it’s unfortunate.

    • @jmsy
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      16 hours ago

      I think there are 3 reasons.

      1. The economy is ALWAYS, FUCKING ALWAYS, the driving force behind the general public’s vote. The current American economy, when observed at a macro level, has been great under Biden’s presidency. Inflation induced by COVID and Trump’s first term policies has been declining, GDP is up, the trade balance is good, and interest rates are starting to come down. Americans aren’t benefiting from this in their personal finances. The wealth gap is severe because of trickle down economics. The democrats are shit at communicating this or even having a plan for it. Instead the democrats campaigned that identity politics were as important as the economy. Just fucking stupid. We all know the democrats policy on minority rights and protections. Talk about the economy and how you’ll make individuals wealthier.

      2. Some exit polls asked what emotions voters felt when they voted. The bi-partisan answer was overwhelmingly anger. (I think it was a cnn poll and a smaller website poll.) Guess which candidate plays into that emotion and guess which ran on “good vibes and joy.”

      3. In 2020, Harris wasn’t well liked and didn’t primary well. She may have done her job well as VP, but the public didn’t know about it. She and her campaign didn’t even communicate what she was doing. When she was “anointed,” that turned off many democrats. Most of the excitement came from relatively few. The relatively many democrats or people who could be persuaded to vote democrat were not motivated. At current count, Trump has lost about 6 million votes from 2020. Harris has about 14 million less votes than Biden in 2020.

      TLDR The DNC are master fuckups

    • @[email protected]
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      07 hours ago

      Yeah we know trump is awful, but in the end we could buy more stuff under trump than we can now and that’s all we really care about so we voted for him anyway.

    • Queen HawlSera
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      -27 hours ago

      America simply feels like they can “Sit this one out” if it means putting a woman in a position of authority over a man.

      If Kamela was VP and Walz was the top of the ticket and nothing else changed…

      Walz would have won in a landslide.