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    16 days ago

    Or maybe the words do have reasonably fixed global meaning and only British Exceptionalism and their very propaganda-heavy environment makes Britons think their political landscape redefines those words.

    Besides, even in Britain you might want to consider the existence of the Corbyn phenomenon (who, if I remember it correctly, got more votes than Starmer did) as well as the Greenparty (whose 1 million vote count went up to 1.4 million in the latest electing) as proof that there is in fact a Left even in England which is not just “What’s in it for me?!” Neoliberals cosplaying as “lefties” by throwing some identity politics slogans and below inflation minimum wage raises once in a while, whilst de facto supporting an ethno-Fascist regime half way around the globe currently working on Holocaust v2.

    I would say their support for the Neue Nazis and their pro-Finance politics (which I saw up close and personal having worked in that Industry before, during and after the 2008 Crash) by themselves are more than enough to place them firmly in the full-on Right field, possibly even Hard Right.

    People whose guiding principle is “The greatest good for the greatest number” don’t do what the New Labour types have done and continue to do, even the “pragmatic”/“moderate”/“center” ones.

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        16 days ago

        What would I know, my references are only politics in 4 different countries including being a political party member in two of them, one of which was the UK …