Maybe the purpose of a system is what it does…
Maybe trying to lower the rate/efficiency of the baby-killing machine is the wrong approach…
Maybe you should be thinking about destroying it…

  • @[email protected]
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    1418 days ago

    Kamala’s participation and enthusiastic support for the ethnic cleansing of Palestine was a significant factor in her losing. As was her enthusiastic support for border militarization and conspiracies about illegal immigrants.

    She dug her own grave. We were told to shut up whenever we mentioned how unpopular those positions are with anyone who’s not a far right nationalist. She drove millions of voters away from her by being a neoliberal conservative. This outcome was entirely predictable.

    • @mrcleanup
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      318 days ago

      Who did she drive them to? Someone with a better track record, surely?

      • @[email protected]
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        1118 days ago

        To Trump. Her platform was essentially a “stay the course, maintain the status quo” platform which has been terrible for a lot of people.

        The average voter doesn’t know or understand what the word fascism means, what project 2025 is even if you explain it to them, or what trans rights are. They don’t know whether illegal immigration is a problem or not. They live within massive propaganda machines that often confuse them and are taught to believe anything else is wrong on principal.

        For many of those people, including many minorities and many women, the status quo has not treated them well. And someone who’s entire campaign was built on maintaining the status quo was deeply unpopular with those people. Trump offered a radical restructuring of society. He offered a dramatic shift in status quo and a government with entirely different priorities.

        That appealed to those people, who both do not understand politics and are confused about what any of it really means anyway. All they know is that life under Biden saw their lives get much worse and the other guy says he’s going to change that and says he knows how. He doesn’t, of course. But they don’t know that. They don’t live in the echo chambers we do discussing these problems. Their primary use of social media is sharing pictures with friends and family. They’re annoyed by their friends who keep talling politics online, politics confuses and frustrates them.

        Obama’s campaign was built on change and it’s what one him 2 elections. The first one by a landslide. Lessee of two evil politics, staying the course politics, is never going to drum up support enough to defeat fascism.

        • @mrcleanup
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          017 days ago

          That’s all well and good, but my point stands. Criticizing Kamala didn’t get us anything except the person we didn’t want. That’s a failed strategy.

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            417 days ago

            That’s what I’m saying, though. Incredibly justified criticism of her did not lose the election. She chose to ignore criticism and focus on appealing to conservatives.

            • @mrcleanup
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              -117 days ago

              Right, it’s not our fault for running a smear campaign and dividing the base, it’s her fault for not changing into who we wanted her to be…

              Whatever you think the magic bullet was, undermining her support did not help keep Trump out of office.

              • @Ensign_Crab
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                317 days ago

                Whatever you think the magic bullet was, undermining her support did not help keep Trump out of office.

                Maybe she shouldn’t have done things that undermined her support, then.

                • @mrcleanup
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                  -116 days ago

                  Ah, the good old “look what you made me do” argument.

                  • @Ensign_Crab
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                    115 days ago

                    I voted for Harris. But I could read the writing on the wall. Every time I tried to warn one of you, you did what you did here. Just assumed that I voted contrary to your sense of entitlement and was trying to justify it.

                    And none of you have learned a fucking thing. If there’s ever going to be a next election, y’all are gonna move right and shriek condemnation at anyone who has a problem with it, since the alternative involves treating your base like humans with agency instead of automatons that you can abuse until votes fall out.

              • @[email protected]
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                117 days ago

                75% of white men voted for Trump. It was categorically not the fault of people criticizing her support of genocide, her militarization of the border, or her continued appeal to conservatives. Your failure to recognize this is exactly what theyre counting on to continue with the exact same platform. No, they do have to change. If a future world where fascism is defeated is the goal than either the democratic party has to change into a party that will actually challenge it, or else the system of politics in America itself must be dismantled.