Harris and the Biden administration have displayed unconditional support for Israel and its far right leaders.

  • @Eldritch
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    14 days ago

    Pro genocide candidates did better too. State wide elections often have little correlation to national elections. District elections even less. Both are far easier than national elections too.

    No anti genocide candidate did better in the national election. And there’s no evidence implying they would have.

    • BrikoXOP
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      24 days ago

      People standing against genocide crushed in local elections.

      • @Eldritch
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        24 days ago

        Yes and I specifically said that local and national elections are not analogous. You cannot take something that would work in a local election and expected to work exactly the same at a national election. It’s a fallacy. And you are arguing a straw man.

        • BrikoXOP
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          14 days ago

          It’s not always the case, but it was during this election season. This season was dominated with single-issue voters, and all of those issues were national not local.

          • @Eldritch
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            14 days ago

            Do you have any proof of that claim? I mean other than you claiming it. Because I can guarantee you where I live almost no one gave a s*** about it. Which I’m not happy about it. But it’s come to be expected with the amount of lead poisoning this state has. It played wildly different from state to state and had no clear discernible National influence. The biggest thing that seemed to motivate the outcome of this. Was racism and apathy.

              • @Eldritch
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                14 days ago

                They’re different state to state. It’s not universally applicable that is the point that is what I’m getting at. Stuff that was important for Palestinian populations in Dearborn michigan. Is not going to be remotely the same as what is important to the yokels in Joplin missouri. There is no Universal appeal or play to it unfortunately. Apparently a lot of people really don’t have a problem with it. And didn’t really care about it one way or the others. It wasn’t a universal thing that impacted all populations equally. Missouri for instance did the most Missouri thing possible. And voted to legalize abortion again. While electing the president that will ban it nationally. It had nothing to do with Palestine or anything going on over there at all. Missourians do this all the time. They voted to have funding controls on political campaigns to reduce the impact of dark money. And the very next election repealed it.

                • BrikoXOP
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                  14 days ago

                  You seem to misunderstand my point. I said that it was “dominated with single-issue voters”, not that single-issue for everyone was Palestine.

                  • @Eldritch
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                    14 days ago

                    In that case that’s fair. But those single issues unfortunately we’re not Universal and varied region region. Not being applicable to extrapolate out to a national election.

                    Had she called out Israel’s actions and cut them off. It would have cost her plenty of votes elsewhere. It’s not some Universal net positive and it’s wrong to represent it that way. Which is all I was getting at initially.