• @[email protected]OPM
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    712 days ago

    In the UK, the environmental movement has actually won the argument, but I don’t think we’ve fully realised it, yet. Even Conservative voters (if not MPs) want climate action as a high priority.

    • @TheGrandNagus
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      512 days ago

      Yes, that’s certainly how it appears, but in order to stay that way, we need constant pressure.

      We’ve seen a fair amount of places go backwards in terms of rhetoric surrounding climate change. The US in particular was more accepting of the reality of climate change 20 years ago than they are now. We need to be vigilant and make sure climate denialism cannot take root here.

      Unfortunately, some conservatives and all of Reform seem to be trending in that direction.

      • @[email protected]OPM
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        412 days ago

        Yeah, no room for complacency! But that’s why we need to do the difficult things quickly (e.g., building all the pylons we need to link up new green energy developments) and also do things that aren’t likely to be undone (which is why Labour shouldn’t drop the requirement for new homes to have solar panels).

        • @TheGrandNagus
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          412 days ago

          Yup. I’m living in a new build right now and broadly enjoy it, but in some ways I’m shocked it’s not more forward-thinking.

          No solar panels, gas boiler, radiators on the walls, no heat pump. I keep thinking why the hell was a house built in 2019 not built with this stuff in mind.

          Homebuilders need to be told, they won’t do it by themselves unless it’s cheaper.

          • @[email protected]OPM
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            312 days ago

            Exactly. I think Labour would do it, more than happily, were it not for the housing crisis. They understandably want to build a lot, quickly, but they need to be convinced that the crisis won’t really be ‘solved’ without medium- long-term thinking, which includes eco-friendly standards.

            • @[email protected]
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              212 days ago

              Building new houses that are cheap to run, and don’t need gas lines put in place should be a positive.

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      010 days ago

      Unfortunately the corperations that fund both parties. Do not want to adapt.

      They are the ones funding all the media fud, amd why almost every effort is concentrated on indevidual use/change.