Consumer group Which? has filed a £3 billion lawsuit against Apple, accusing the tech giant of forcing iCloud usage and overcharging customers.

  • Flying Squid
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    13 months ago

    Do you mean office suite stuff like Keynote and Pages or are you talking more complex things like Logic Pro?

    • @[email protected]
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      23 months ago

      I don’t use logic, but yeah the whole iWork suite, Freeform, Reminders, Notes. I think HomeKit data is also synced, and given how much data corruption happens in HomeKit as it is, I would dread any other complication.

      There’s also the transparent encryption that happens where even Apple can’t get your stuff.

      I mean I’d be a fan if Apple published a requirement spec for the iCloud api and opened it up to third parties, but it will be a lot to unpack and implement.

      • Flying Squid
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        13 months ago

        I use all of those and I don’t need to pay for iCloud.

        • @c10l
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          23 months ago

          You must not use a lot of data on those apps then. My Logic files alone go easily over the free tier. Add to that iPhone and iPad backups for the family and there’s no way I could have anywhere near the same level of service without paying for iCloud.

          • Flying Squid
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            Sorry, I didn’t mean to include Logic in that. I don’t use that. But like Homekit and Reminders and stuff? It’s never been an issue.

            • @c10l
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              13 months ago

              Why did you simply gloss over backups? But it’s not just that, there’s all kinds of files and documents.

              Sure, if you use very little synced data and the free tier suits you, then you don’t need to pay.

              That’s not the same as not needing to pay for iCloud. What you’re saying is that people don’t need to keep their data synced across devices but that should really be a user choice and not mandated by the platform.

              What I’d like is for Apple to publish the iCloud API specs and allow 3rd-parties to offer alternative services that you configure somewhere in Settings.

              Ideally, there would be a self-hosted option where you can simply point it to an arbitrary URL but I suspect the latter will never happen “because security”.

              Of course, that last point is only really valid if their promise of E2E encryption is not more than a promise.

              • Flying Squid
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                13 months ago

                I glossed over backups specifically because, as I said, there are free alternatives.

                For example, I back up my photos remotely to Google Photos. I also back them up locally.

                • @c10l
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                  23 months ago

                  That’s not what’s in iPhone and iPad backups. If you keep moving the goalpost, there’s no point in this discussion.

                  • Flying Squid
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                    13 months ago

                    I’m not moving any goalposts. I’m not sure why you’re being so hostile. I’m telling you what I do for the data I back up. I don’t know what backups you’re talking about, backing up the entire device and everything that’s on it including all the apps? It’s just not something that I think is necessary. On the other hand, I have ways to store all the photos, videos, music, texts, and any other things like that which might need backing up and can’t just be re-downloaded from the app store.

                    I agree, if you’re using something like Logic, paying for iCloud makes sense right now even if it is overpriced and unnecessary.

        • @[email protected]
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          23 months ago

          The free tier is pretty good for many people. It’s mostly Photos that ever push people into actually paying for an iCloud account.

          • Flying Squid
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            13 months ago

            Yeah, and you can just use Google photos for free unless you have just a shit ton of photos.