For example, let’s say Bernie Sanders was the nominee in 2024 against Trump. A lot of people on the internet seem to like him, even some conservatives. But would liberals fall in line and vote for him enough to beat Trump?

Bernie’s supporters always seem to attack the Democrats liberal base, do you think they’d sit home if Bernie or any leftist was the nominee.

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    Absolutely not. Type “Lamont Lieberman” (without the quotes) into a search engine for more info. Also “Clinton puma”. In the opposite direction, Kamala Harris lost a lot of Biden voters. Biden was considered relatively left of center (though nowhere near as leftist as Sanders) back in the day.

    • @[email protected]
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      I don’t even think Biden is left of the US center. Who the hell thinks Biden is left of center?

      • stinerman [Ohio]
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        In terms of what he got done, he’s easily the most left wing President since LBJ. Perhaps FDR. Whether or not that is defined as left-wing/leftist/liberal is a matter of opinion.

      • @radix
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        Left of global center? No. Left of USA center? Probably.

        https://news.gallup.com/poll/388988/political-ideology-steady-conservatives-moderates-tie.aspx

        More Americans identify as conservative than liberal. It’s not something we have to like, and certain policies may be quite different individually, but in order to win nationally, Democrats have to defeat voters’ own self-identification. Obviously it happens, so this isn’t some insurmountable challenge, but the deck is stacked.

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        Left of the US Senate center, or maybe the Senate Democrat center. Not the whole US. And I mean in the 1980s, not now. Even today though, I’d consider him leftward of Kamala Harris.

      • @jeffw
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        Biden is certainly left of the US center.

    • @BadmanDanOP
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      Oh yeah, completely forgot that.