• Rekall IncorporatedOP
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    9 hours ago

    State-backed chipmakers have been trying to push the limit of ASML’s older deep ultraviolet lithography machines, the Dutch supplier’s second-best lineup (after EUVs), with the so-called quadruple patterning technique.

    That requires lithographic machines to perform up to four exposures on a silicon wafer, with a total margin of error of no wider than hundredths the diameter of a human hair. Compared to EUV lithography, the multi-patterning technique with DUVs is not only resource-intensive but also prone to alignment errors and yield losses, according to Ying-Wu Liu, an analyst at research firm Yole Group.

    That effort isn’t going well because of subpar local gear used in conjunction with ASML’s DUV systems, according to one of the people. On at least one trial production line, engineers have been forced to replace Chinese gear with foreign equipment to ensure reasonable output, the person said.

    “Multi-patterning inherently introduces more process steps, increasing the risk of defects and variability,” Liu said. “Additionally, the higher complexity and cost of multi-patterning make it less economically viable for high-volume production of advanced nodes like 5nm.”

    I was always skeptical about China’s 7nm fab process. It did not seem economically viable.

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      19 hours ago

      Their 7nm is fine, but it seems like their 5nm plans are over.

      • Rekall IncorporatedOP
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        18 hours ago

        That’s not what the information implies.

        The quadruple patterning approach does not seem viable even if they can deliver products with 7nm.

        • @tekato
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          15 hours ago

          That’s not what the information implies

          What information? SMIC has been delivering 7nm chips for years.

          The quadruple patterning approach does not seem viable even if they can deliver products with 7nm

          Every single manufacturer (Samsung, TSMC, Intel) uses multiple patterning, it’s inevitable and in no way “not viable”. China’s problem is that they don’t have access to better equipment, so even multiple patterning techniques are not enough for good 5 nm.