Who has access to the sum of a payout before choosing the scraps to divvy out? About as much logic as I’d expect from a degenerate whose online fetishisms are perpetuated by capitalistic commerce.
There is no “payout”. It’s a trade. You’re receiving a wage at the same time that they are receiving your labor. That’s how it works.
Also, you’ve chosen what to accept as payment beforehand, you’re treating it like you have to accept just beginning to work and hope that you are paid what you believe your labor is worth after.
No one is stopping you from creating a co-op if you don’t like any of the offers presented to you, either, by the way.
A business started by 2 or more people who agree to equally split everything. So for example, if you hire someone new, everyone’s share of ownership/profits/etc. is divided up such that the new person now gets paid/equity the same as everyone else.
There are no specific barriers to entry for that, no more than there are for starting a business any other way.
Yeah, all of those things are why you don’t get, nor are entitled to, 100% of the value created when you work for a business you didn’t create. Your labor wouldn’t create the value it does without the infrastructure you’re working within. Infrastructure that none of your resources went into creating or maintaining.
And in addition, as a regular worker you’re also not on the hook if the business is not profiting. Amazon existed for over a decade without turning a profit, but its employees still got paid that whole time.
That’s the trade-off. Work for yourself, or understand that is a combination of your labor and your employer’s infrastructure that makes your labor as valuable as it is, and that therefore neither side is entitled to 100% of that value.
That’s my point. There’s no legal barrier, but it’s not so easy to put all that in place. Most people are straight up incapable of it.
Those people should stop complaining that they don’t get 100% of the value they obviously are not 100% responsible for creating, when they labor within a framework built and maintained by others, with others’ resources, said framework being the primary reason that their labor is valuable to begin with.
You can get paid for digging a hole where the one who’s paying wants you to, but no one’s gonna pay you for digging random holes in your own backyard no one but you wants there.
That’s not nothing then, stop lying. Just say “it’s perfectly legal to start your own business alone or together when you don’t like the jobs available to you” or something
Who has access to the sum of a payout before choosing the scraps to divvy out? About as much logic as I’d expect from a degenerate whose online fetishisms are perpetuated by capitalistic commerce.
There is no “payout”. It’s a trade. You’re receiving a wage at the same time that they are receiving your labor. That’s how it works.
Also, you’ve chosen what to accept as payment beforehand, you’re treating it like you have to accept just beginning to work and hope that you are paid what you believe your labor is worth after.
No one is stopping you from creating a co-op if you don’t like any of the offers presented to you, either, by the way.
What’s a coop? And are there really no barriers to entry?
A business started by 2 or more people who agree to equally split everything. So for example, if you hire someone new, everyone’s share of ownership/profits/etc. is divided up such that the new person now gets paid/equity the same as everyone else.
There are no specific barriers to entry for that, no more than there are for starting a business any other way.
But there is a reason that despite all the rhetoric about evil employers stealing labor, this arrangement is quite uncommon, and tends to scale up very poorly. Here is an article with some pros and cons: https://smallbusiness.chron.com/advantages-disadvantages-business-cooperatives-24608.html
Ahh, yes. There’s no upfront investment, skill, free time or anything more than a regular job. Nothing is stopping anyone.
Yeah, all of those things are why you don’t get, nor are entitled to, 100% of the value created when you work for a business you didn’t create. Your labor wouldn’t create the value it does without the infrastructure you’re working within. Infrastructure that none of your resources went into creating or maintaining.
And in addition, as a regular worker you’re also not on the hook if the business is not profiting. Amazon existed for over a decade without turning a profit, but its employees still got paid that whole time.
That’s the trade-off. Work for yourself, or understand that is a combination of your labor and your employer’s infrastructure that makes your labor as valuable as it is, and that therefore neither side is entitled to 100% of that value.
Yes, we know. And it’s also why “nothing is stopping you” is just a lie
That’s my point. There’s no legal barrier, but it’s not so easy to put all that in place. Most people are straight up incapable of it.
Those people should stop complaining that they don’t get 100% of the value they obviously are not 100% responsible for creating, when they labor within a framework built and maintained by others, with others’ resources, said framework being the primary reason that their labor is valuable to begin with.
You can get paid for digging a hole where the one who’s paying wants you to, but no one’s gonna pay you for digging random holes in your own backyard no one but you wants there.
That’s not nothing then, stop lying. Just say “it’s perfectly legal to start your own business alone or together when you don’t like the jobs available to you” or something