Imagine being pro union but also somehow libertarian. Fuckin wild. Do they not realize that in a libertarian system anyone trying to form a union would be fired immediately?
I’m not sure I understand your point exactly. What exactly does the libertarian philosophy say about unions? A union is essentially just people who choose to associate with eachother and act as a single entity under an employer; in a free market, their bargaining power would be proportional to their size — its growth would impact the pool of potential employees that could be hired outside of the union. There could be, for example, laws in place which prevent a company from firing a union, which a libertarian would generally oppose, but a libertarian needn’t necessarily oppose the concept of unions, imo.
My point was concise and abundantly clear. I’m not sure how one could fail to understand how an employer won’t do anything they’re not compelled to do by law (As evidenced by the very existence of OSHA, for one.) which would include good faith negotiation with a union.
I wasn’t asking for your opinion of the clarity of your own post. All that’s important in this conversation is that your point wasn’t clear to me. If one is interested in continuing a conversation in good faith, then they would want to make sure that all parties involved are accurately following what’s being said.
I’m not sure how one could fail to understand how an employer won’t do anything they’re not compelled to do by law (As evidenced by the very existence of OSHA, for one.) which would include good faith negotiation with a union.
As long as the market is competitive and the agents involved are well-informed. Things like OSHA come in to play when the second requirement fails; if it is not possible for a consumer to make a well-informed purchase, then there should be reasonable protections in place for that consumer to make up for the deficiency.
Imagine being pro union but also somehow libertarian. Fuckin wild. Do they not realize that in a libertarian system anyone trying to form a union would be fired immediately?
Maybe they want small government…so they can fight the government with their union?
It’s a bit like saying that you want to fight Mike Tyson, but only if you remove his arms and vision.
That’s easy to do, it only takes 20 million dollars
Not if the Taft-Hartley Act is abolished. They usually don’t know about that regulation so I start there.
They’d be fired, evicted from their home, have their bank account closed, and get banned from entering most retail stores.
I’m not sure I understand your point exactly. What exactly does the libertarian philosophy say about unions? A union is essentially just people who choose to associate with eachother and act as a single entity under an employer; in a free market, their bargaining power would be proportional to their size — its growth would impact the pool of potential employees that could be hired outside of the union. There could be, for example, laws in place which prevent a company from firing a union, which a libertarian would generally oppose, but a libertarian needn’t necessarily oppose the concept of unions, imo.
My point was concise and abundantly clear. I’m not sure how one could fail to understand how an employer won’t do anything they’re not compelled to do by law (As evidenced by the very existence of OSHA, for one.) which would include good faith negotiation with a union.
I wasn’t asking for your opinion of the clarity of your own post. All that’s important in this conversation is that your point wasn’t clear to me. If one is interested in continuing a conversation in good faith, then they would want to make sure that all parties involved are accurately following what’s being said.
As long as the market is competitive and the agents involved are well-informed. Things like OSHA come in to play when the second requirement fails; if it is not possible for a consumer to make a well-informed purchase, then there should be reasonable protections in place for that consumer to make up for the deficiency.