• JackGreenEarth
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    -681 month ago

    Just because some of them indirectly kill people doesn’t make it moral to kill them. Maybe if it actually would make the world better, you could have a utilitarian argument for it, but as long as you just kill individual billionaires and not creating a new socialist system they’ll just be replaced by new billionaires. As I said, regardless of whether it’s moral to kill them, it won’t help.

    • GlockenGold
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      181 month ago

      All of them indirectly kill people. It’s impossible to be a billionaire and a moral person, as a moral person would spend that wealth to improve the lives of others. You can say that “oh but this billionaire runs a charity!”, but how much of their own wealth do they give to it? Would a moral billionaire rely on the money of others to make change in the world? Would they still be a billionaire if they truly wanted change?

      • JackGreenEarth
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        101 month ago

        Just to be clear, you don’t need to convince me there are no moral billionaires.

    • @iAvicenna
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      1 month ago

      Maybe if it actually would make the world better, you >could have a utilitarian argument

      I have no doubt it would make the world better if you kill them and distribute their money (in minecraft) to I don’t know social housing, public hospitals and schools (not claiming they will be used with %100 efficiency or %100 ethically but will be orders of magnitudes better than what billionaires are doing with them in maybe all cases). If it turns out to be a billionaire whose businesses we are currently addicted to (not gonna name names but you know), then there will be a period of inconvenience but we will get over it and adapt.

      • JackGreenEarth
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        21 month ago

        Obviously redistributing their wealth would be good. Killing them doesn’t automatically give you their wealth to redistribute, and redistributing without killing them is also a possibility you seem to be ignoring.

        • @deafboy
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          21 month ago

          What if we don’t kill them, but just rob them instead?

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          yes fair point. I am also ok to give them the following choices:

          1- live in a poor country with minimum wage with no opportunity to change jobs and a wealth cap (your annual earnings from other sources should be comparable to annual earnings of a minimal wage job). I have the feeling that after a couple months they will commit suicide. for billionaires directly affiliated with arms companies, this should be a country which was recently a war zone.

          2- trial by combat. no wait that is game of thrones got confused.

          This extra punishment’s purpose should be to act as a deterrant