That’s what I mean when I say IQ tests don’t really mean anything, they measure just a few aspects of intelligence and it doesn’t tell you anything meaningful about a whole person
Are parts of someone’s intelligence not a meaningful part of them? And I don’t mean in the “other people should judge them for it” sense, just, in general it seems like a pretty notable piece of you.
Are parts of someone’s intelligence not a meaningful part of them?
As meaningful as any other fraction of a part of a person by itself, and no - it’s not as notable as most people would like make out.
Are just a few aspects of someone’s intellect (working memory and speed/accuracy in information processing) the whole of who they are as a person?
Are the only valuable parts of a person those aspects of intelligence a given IQ test is designed to measure?
Is it impossible to live a good and fulfilling life, if you score poorly on such a test?
If you answer those questions “No”, then you get it. For myself and my own experience, I find plenty of joy and meaning in my life despite my deficiencies; whether I can remember a factoid instead of having to look it up, or whether I can calculate a percentage tip in my head vs using a calculator, hasn’t impacted that at all.
If you answer those questions “No”, then you get it.
My answers are of course “No”. I don’t disagree with what you’re saying, I’m just saying that there’s a difference between “this aspect of yourself defines your entire life” and “this aspect of yourself is notable enough to affect how you approach the world”. I was arguing for the second, not the first. Intelligence (IQ, social, or otherwise) is not a measure of someone’s value, nor is it their whole self, but it’s a meaningful part of them.
Are parts of someone’s intelligence not a meaningful part of them? And I don’t mean in the “other people should judge them for it” sense, just, in general it seems like a pretty notable piece of you.
As meaningful as any other fraction of a part of a person by itself, and no - it’s not as notable as most people would like make out.
If you answer those questions “No”, then you get it. For myself and my own experience, I find plenty of joy and meaning in my life despite my deficiencies; whether I can remember a factoid instead of having to look it up, or whether I can calculate a percentage tip in my head vs using a calculator, hasn’t impacted that at all.
My answers are of course “No”. I don’t disagree with what you’re saying, I’m just saying that there’s a difference between “this aspect of yourself defines your entire life” and “this aspect of yourself is notable enough to affect how you approach the world”. I was arguing for the second, not the first. Intelligence (IQ, social, or otherwise) is not a measure of someone’s value, nor is it their whole self, but it’s a meaningful part of them.