• DrSleepless
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    -15 hours ago

    Remember “popcorn lung” whatever happened to that?

      • @Sludgeyy
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        74 hours ago

        Certain flavorings contain a diketone chemical. They were mostly used in butter or cream flavors.

        Orignal vape juice contained Nicotine, Vegetable Glycerin, and Propylene Glycol. Then a flavoring was added to make it taste.

        The flavorings are used in baking or even making popcorn. “Safe” to eat but not to inhale.

        People that worked in movie theaters would develop “popcorn lung” from breathing in the butter flavoring all day. That’s where the term comes from.

        Any reputable vape juice company would not use these flavorings today.

        • @[email protected]
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          54 hours ago

          This. And the last I heard was that the levels required to cause “popcorn lung” with dicetyl additives in vape liquids was much higher than what you should reasonably be exposed to by vaping it.

          The industry as a whole still moved to alternatives regardless.

          At least the legit/legal places did.

          • Nougat
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            53 hours ago

            Yup, as soon as any problems with diacetyl were revealed, everyone stopped using it, and messaging to end users to avoid it was strong.

    • @[email protected]
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      4 hours ago

      That was weed vapes with vitamin e acetate as a thickener. Not a thing in legit and regulated nicotine vapes.

      • bizarroland
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        34 hours ago

        I think you’re mistaken. It was actually a butter flavoring that caused popcorn lung.

        Sounds like bullshit, but it is the truth.

        • Nougat
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          64 hours ago

          It was a butter flavoring. Diacetyl. There was also a Vit E acetate problem for a short period of time related to bathtub THC vape cart refills, and it was used as a thickener.

          • @[email protected]
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            33 hours ago

            From what I understand, most of the hospitalizations in the USA from VALI, were actually from these bathtub THC vapes.

            A bunch of people pointed at popcorn lung and diacetyl, which I am not aware of any cases of that additive creating any issues for anyone at any time. Since it could, the industry stopped using it anyways.

            Most of the people involved in the social media campaign where VALI patients would hold up a sign that reads something to the effect of starting an anti-vaping thing, are basically all from vit E acetate.

            Afaik, that didn’t end up in the news, since they just don’t do follow ups because they’re not sensational enough.

            • Nougat
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              23 hours ago

              Diacetyl was out of use for a very long time before the VitE acetate thing came up. I want to say there were something like 12 hospitalizations from VitE acetate? Most of them admitted to using THC vape carts, there were like three or four who said they didn’t.

              Patients lie.