This a wealth of studies showing cigarettes and beer negatively affect your health, while gender affirming cares improves and extends it. These are not even remotely comparable.
What I seriously can’t estimate is, how persistent is gender identification in youths?
I mean, children and teenagers are generally idiots (I certainly was). As far as I know, there’s no physiological test to determine trans identity, so an outside observer has a really hard time distinguishing real and “fake” trans identity. I’m not even talking about willful deceit, but just the general instability of kids.
So, I can understand that people are hesitant to allow gender affirming care, because they fear they might do more harm than good. Especially if you’re somewhat older, all those trans issues must seem like a new trend, I certainly didn’t hear much about them 10 years ago. Unless there’s something like a proper scientific guideline, all judges and doctors are basically forced to judge themselves and will probably stick to the “old ways”.
You sound well meaning but uniformed. Sure more research is always good but this is already a very well understood field and I have ample sources to prove it.
I can understand that people are hesitant to allow gender affirming care, because they fear they might do more harm than good.
First off, there is absolutely zero surgeries being performed on minors. This is not happening. What is happening is puberty blockers and hormone replacement therapy, both of which are non-permanent. And once someone becomes an adult and begins more permanent affirming care, the rate of people experiencing regret is laughably low.
all those trans issues must seem like a new trend, I certainly didn’t hear much about them 10 years ago
I think you need to understand your personal limitations. Because it’s really not new, I mean I can point to ancient history with people like Empress Elagabalus, but if we just want to talk about modern medical transition there is Dr. Alan Hart in 1917 or Christine Jorgensen in 1952 a WW2 vet that made national headlines. The diagonosis of gender dysphoria has existed in the DSM since 1980. Trans identity or medical transitions is very far from a new concept.
Unless there’s something like a proper scientific guideline,
There are already numerous safeguards, such as to receive any gender affirming care (which is only ever provided to adults) requires multiple years on reversible Hormones and then letters of support form twoseparate psychiatrists.
Weather or not a doctor is allowed to prescribe proven treatments to a patient suffering from a preventable, manageable and curable condition is NOT something that a judge needs to determine. It exclusively is the purview of a patient and a doctor, not the law.
As a trans person myself, I need you to understand that reticence by the cis population is dangerous for the trans population. So while I can understand why it sounds extreme to you, that should only be a reason for you personally not to seek this sort of care. Not a reason for you to support roadblocks against the advice from medical professionals.
The first study is about adults, not children. The pediatrics talk about banning care all together. Both address exactly not my point.
First off, there is absolutely zero surgeries being performed on minors. This is not happening. What is happening is puberty blockers and hormone replacement therapy, both of which are non-permanent
I never implied surgery. And “non-permanent” is a euphemism. Blocking puberty for years can lead to permanent problems - like infertility.
Actually, your entire comment kind of proves my point: there isn’t research about how kids think and care ten years later.
As a trans person myself, I need you to understand that reticence by the cis population is dangerous for the trans population
And you need to understand, that finding out, whether a kid is part of that population is exactly the hard part.
Thanks for all the info. Can you explain how hormone treatment for children would be non-permanent? I’d think that adding or substracting hormones, like say growth hormones, would always leave traces throughout ones further life
Because they temporarily block the onset of puberty, not permanently block it. Any effects are mostly reversible if the individual desires. What isn’t reversible are the all too frequent side effects of untreated dysphoria: death.
the cool thing is: research is being done and doctors and medical boards have the same concerns as you and are way smarter than both of us. gender affirming healthcare is treated with the same level of respect as every other healthcare field.
I feel like gender working should encompass figuring out if they do wish to transition and look at the reasons why one might be feeling that way, I always assumed it did, did it not?
To me, having no kind of care at all for trans people is just making it so that they can’t get all of the best/accurate information that they need to figure out who they truly are. Which is shite. Everyone deserves that chance regardless of age.
This a wealth of studies showing cigarettes and beer negatively affect your health, while gender affirming cares improves and extends it. These are not even remotely comparable.
Gender affirming surgeries have a lower regret rate than Harry Potter tattoos
I imagine gender affirming care as a whole is even lower (since not everyone wants surgery)
Can confirm anecdotally. Have a Harry Potter tattoo from when I was 18, am trans. Only one of them I regret and it’s not transitioning.
What I seriously can’t estimate is, how persistent is gender identification in youths?
I mean, children and teenagers are generally idiots (I certainly was). As far as I know, there’s no physiological test to determine trans identity, so an outside observer has a really hard time distinguishing real and “fake” trans identity. I’m not even talking about willful deceit, but just the general instability of kids.
So, I can understand that people are hesitant to allow gender affirming care, because they fear they might do more harm than good. Especially if you’re somewhat older, all those trans issues must seem like a new trend, I certainly didn’t hear much about them 10 years ago. Unless there’s something like a proper scientific guideline, all judges and doctors are basically forced to judge themselves and will probably stick to the “old ways”.
As always: further research is needed.
You sound well meaning but uniformed. Sure more research is always good but this is already a very well understood field and I have ample sources to prove it.
First off, there is absolutely zero surgeries being performed on minors. This is not happening. What is happening is puberty blockers and hormone replacement therapy, both of which are non-permanent. And once someone becomes an adult and begins more permanent affirming care, the rate of people experiencing regret is laughably low.
I think you need to understand your personal limitations. Because it’s really not new, I mean I can point to ancient history with people like Empress Elagabalus, but if we just want to talk about modern medical transition there is Dr. Alan Hart in 1917 or Christine Jorgensen in 1952 a WW2 vet that made national headlines. The diagonosis of gender dysphoria has existed in the DSM since 1980. Trans identity or medical transitions is very far from a new concept.
Every major field of related medicine abundantly agrees that this is safe and necessary treatment. Such as American Academy of Pediatrics, American Medical Association and American Psychiatric Association.
There are already numerous safeguards, such as to receive any gender affirming care (which is only ever provided to adults) requires multiple years on reversible Hormones and then letters of support form two separate psychiatrists.
Weather or not a doctor is allowed to prescribe proven treatments to a patient suffering from a preventable, manageable and curable condition is NOT something that a judge needs to determine. It exclusively is the purview of a patient and a doctor, not the law.
As a trans person myself, I need you to understand that reticence by the cis population is dangerous for the trans population. So while I can understand why it sounds extreme to you, that should only be a reason for you personally not to seek this sort of care. Not a reason for you to support roadblocks against the advice from medical professionals.
Read your sources again.
The first study is about adults, not children. The pediatrics talk about banning care all together. Both address exactly not my point.
I never implied surgery. And “non-permanent” is a euphemism. Blocking puberty for years can lead to permanent problems - like infertility.
Actually, your entire comment kind of proves my point: there isn’t research about how kids think and care ten years later.
And you need to understand, that finding out, whether a kid is part of that population is exactly the hard part.
Thanks for all the info. Can you explain how hormone treatment for children would be non-permanent? I’d think that adding or substracting hormones, like say growth hormones, would always leave traces throughout ones further life
Because they temporarily block the onset of puberty, not permanently block it. Any effects are mostly reversible if the individual desires. What isn’t reversible are the all too frequent side effects of untreated dysphoria: death.
the cool thing is: research is being done and doctors and medical boards have the same concerns as you and are way smarter than both of us. gender affirming healthcare is treated with the same level of respect as every other healthcare field.
I feel like gender working should encompass figuring out if they do wish to transition and look at the reasons why one might be feeling that way, I always assumed it did, did it not?
To me, having no kind of care at all for trans people is just making it so that they can’t get all of the best/accurate information that they need to figure out who they truly are. Which is shite. Everyone deserves that chance regardless of age.