Furiously drinking coffee and completely empathizing with the confusion you had. (SPOILERS CONTINUE)
I think the problem was that Jayce, after returning from the future timeline, only had one goal; and that was to stop the destruction from happening. This is why he was a crazed murderous vagabond… he hadn’t recognized the figure from the destroyed timeline as his friend. Yes, I know that the freaking staff should have been a giveaway but shrug. For whatever reason he hadn’t put together that future Viktor was the one who’d saved him and his mom and gave him the acceleration rune.
It seemed to me that only changed when he was trying to talk down evil Viktor and Ekko’s time bomb went off. Why, because he could see his face through the cracked facade? I dunno.
If this had just been clearer, likely through more exposition in the destroyed timeline or even as you suggested, some expression of this conversation between Jayce and Victor beforehand, it wouldn’t have been nearly as frustrating for me.
That being said I actually really loved the thought that evil had actually won, took eons to recognize what victory really meant (and I love that his name was Viktor), and then took eons longer to fix it.
Yeah, it’s such a shame. If only we didn’t get the second “flashforward” (lol) where we see future victor talk to Jayce, the story would have been very well weaved and explained without big plot holes:
Jayce goes to the future, some semblance of victor tells him to go back and to kill him to avoid this future.
He does that, however this triggers a massive war.
Jayce loses, and he realises as he takes the form of the dead future jayce, that whatever entity was controlling Victor, or whatever he became after losing his humanity tricked him. He accepts his fate since he willingly killed his friend, triggering the death of thousands. 10/10
The wild variable, Ekko, appears. Ekko seems to free Victor from the control the mind machine has on Victor/Revives the humanity inside of him.
In that moment, Jayce recognises that this is actually the Victor he knows and that there’s still a chance, so he tries to convince Victor, now that he is free of his control/apathy.
Jayce succeeds. Victory! (lol).
That last scene really breaks this timeline and the only explanation is that Jayce was too far gone when future victor talked to him, so much that he ignored the advice, only to remember it when he already was on the mind-world and ekko did his move… Which can be valid but… we just saw jayce deconstruct his hammer and do some incredible physical feats, he didn’t seem to be clouded when he talked to future Victor, but determined.
It pains me greatly that either from a lack of exposition or from some excess they fucked up a masterful story.
In that moment, Jayce recognises that this is actually the Victor he knows and that there’s still a chance, so he tries to convince Victor, now that he is free of his control/apathy.
Good point! That was the first time after Viktor left Jayce at the lab where he looked human and vulnerable, instead of stoic and machinelike. So for Jayce that’s also the first time where another option than destroying Viktor became an possible.
Furiously drinking coffee and completely empathizing with the confusion you had. (SPOILERS CONTINUE)
I think the problem was that Jayce, after returning from the future timeline, only had one goal; and that was to stop the destruction from happening. This is why he was a crazed murderous vagabond… he hadn’t recognized the figure from the destroyed timeline as his friend. Yes, I know that the freaking staff should have been a giveaway but shrug. For whatever reason he hadn’t put together that future Viktor was the one who’d saved him and his mom and gave him the acceleration rune.
It seemed to me that only changed when he was trying to talk down evil Viktor and Ekko’s time bomb went off. Why, because he could see his face through the cracked facade? I dunno.
If this had just been clearer, likely through more exposition in the destroyed timeline or even as you suggested, some expression of this conversation between Jayce and Victor beforehand, it wouldn’t have been nearly as frustrating for me.
That being said I actually really loved the thought that evil had actually won, took eons to recognize what victory really meant (and I love that his name was Viktor), and then took eons longer to fix it.
Yeah, it’s such a shame. If only we didn’t get the second “flashforward” (lol) where we see future victor talk to Jayce, the story would have been very well weaved and explained without big plot holes:
That last scene really breaks this timeline and the only explanation is that Jayce was too far gone when future victor talked to him, so much that he ignored the advice, only to remember it when he already was on the mind-world and ekko did his move… Which can be valid but… we just saw jayce deconstruct his hammer and do some incredible physical feats, he didn’t seem to be clouded when he talked to future Victor, but determined.
It pains me greatly that either from a lack of exposition or from some excess they fucked up a masterful story.
Good point! That was the first time after Viktor left Jayce at the lab where he looked human and vulnerable, instead of stoic and machinelike. So for Jayce that’s also the first time where another option than destroying Viktor became an possible.