• @ChonkyOwlbear
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    11 month ago

    What IS relevant is that the public couldn’t tell Trump and the Republicans were lying to them. It’s easy to tell people what they want to hear if you never intend to follow through.

    • @[email protected]
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      11 month ago

      Relevant to what? Kamala is running around with neocon warmongers and trying gaslight everyone about an ongoing genocide.

      Generally speaking, most lies in politics aren’t disingenuous campaign promises. Trump is a special boy, but Republicans and Democrats are both usually pretty good at actually trying to fulfill campaign promises. The actual lies are mostly gaslighting about the motivations and ultimate aims of those policies. Republicans run on tax cuts and deregulation, and that’s exactly what they do in office. Trump actually does hate black and brown people and really plans to do mass deportations and insane tariffs.

      Every interview with Harris felt like a stump speech. It was all carefully parsed corporate language that said almost nothing and came across as completely disingenuous. Meanwhile, Trump went off the cuff (and arguably the rails) in every interview, and that just codes as being more genuine.

      That’s the disease if Democratic political consultancy. They parse up the demographics, figure out what each group does or doesn’t want to hear, then compute the perfect path to victory. It sounds reasonable, but requires extreme message discipline to pull off. The problem is that very few politicians can pull that off without coming off as manipulative. Obama was one of the few that could pull it off. Biden came close. Kamala wasn’t even in the right ballpark.

      • @ChonkyOwlbear
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        21 month ago

        I don’t think the Democratic candidate mattered at all. Trump is a psychopath. Any sane adult should have beaten him. Harris wasn’t any different than Biden and he beat Trump. Something else happened. Misinformation, foreign interference, and disenfranchisement lost the election.

        • @[email protected]
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          11 month ago

          I agree, but I also think the Democrats could have run a candidate that did matter. Harris was just another useless establishment clone.

          • @ChonkyOwlbear
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            11 month ago

            If they had done that, they would have lost just the same and people would be complaining that they didn’t run someone more mainstream.

              • @ChonkyOwlbear
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                11 month ago

                Sometimes you’re going to lose no matter what you do.

                • @[email protected]
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                  11 month ago

                  Sometimes. Not this time. Harris didn’t come within a thousand miles of running a campaign that would support that.

                  • @ChonkyOwlbear
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                    11 month ago

                    I’ve yet to hear any name that can be convincingly argued to have been able to beat Trump.

                • Doug HollandOPM
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                  Sometimes you’re going to lose no matter what you do.

                  Are you saying Donald Trump was unbeatable in 2024? Nothing Dems did would’ve mattered?

                  • @ChonkyOwlbear
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                    11 month ago

                    No candidate would have mattered once Biden stayed in as long as he did.