Normalize businesses having enough employees that they can take their time whenever they want as long as notice is far enough out. Or people can call in sick without a replacement being required because you were already operating with a couple “extra” people.
And definitely normalize closing on holidays. The sheer number of American employers that require holiday work means it’s not actually a holiday unless you’re wealthy enough. If you absolutely, holy shit, must be open for a holiday, hire people who don’t celebrate it. Maintaining a diverse staff means you can give holidays to the requisite groups without worry. Just put it on the application, “check the box for each holiday you must have off”.
Small businesses cannot afford a few extra people on staff.
It will be worth it if big corporations start taking care of people properly, but one side effect will be that all the small businesses who already struggle to compete with the big corporations will get completely crushed.
Fair enough that if your business model cannot afford to properly compensate the workers then you deserve to go out of business, but due to capitalism, all small businesses fall in to this category.
Only large corporations can survive the transition into properly compensating workers. Sad all around.
If your business cannot afford employees then your business model is not competitive.
If small business, as a whole, is not competitive then we need to get the trust busting stick out again and break these retail giants down to size. I for one look forward to all of the baby Amazons.
If your small business is slightly larger (>50 employees I think?) you have to start paying for health insurance, which adds significantly to the cost of each full-time employee.
Single payer healthcare would be a huge boon to small businesses.
Single payer healthcare would be the greatest gift to corporate finances since the last big bail out. Except it’s being used as an anti-competitive cudgel right now.
Give it a few decades and they’ll be back together under a different name. See Bell for a prime example. They’re one or two mergers from being at 100% again
It’s not just a question of affording employees. Where I work there’s only so many jobs to go around. If you hired enough extras to cover, then most of us would not have work to do on the daily. Even if they paid us to stand around, there are few people who want to do nothing at work all day. We have enough employees to cover one or two sick or vacationing people but we can’t let everyone on the team take the same time off with only a month’s notice. Well, not without losing customers.
Not everyone has to work every day. And pay doesn’t have to be hourly. To use a silly example, it could be done like a fantasy pirate ship. The expenses get paid for and then everyone gets a share. The elected captain gets 3 shares and his officers get 2.
If that’s not enough to hire enough people then refer to my previous comment. If it’s not enough across the board then we have a systemic issue that needs to be addressed. (It’s capitalism, it’s always fucking capitalism and monopolies)
Im not saying to not give people off. All I’m saying is there is no context here. From personal experience most people are selfish and there needs to be some kind of structure when giving PTO. Everyone should have an opportunity to be off but many places can’t shut down their business for 2 weeks because the home sports team made the playoffs. Again I’m speaking from experience. Some people need to be told no so that someone else that earned it or asked earlier can be off.
And just to add this but hiring so anyone can be off at anytime is not possible. You are essentially saying it’s ok to discriminate. For example if my business is in a predominantly Christian community many employees will want to be off on Sunday but that is a peak day because after church many people want to eat at my restaurant. Should I then reject any applications from Christian’s so I ensure I am staffed?
Earn in the context of they put in a lot of hours to finish a project or whatever.
Also don’t mention contracts if you don’t know what you’re talking about. There are plenty of contracts that offer zero pto. Again it’s all context. I swear y’all just want to argue and don’t even read what I’m typing. Business bad people good. That’s the extent of this argument at this point.
Hiring for availability is 100 percent a thing. I’ve filled out an availability chart at every retail job I ever worked. They don’t ask why you aren’t available and it’s about making sure they can cover all of their positions. Discrimination is when you refuse to hire someone because of their religion, and having a bunch of people that are that religion already on staff is generally a pretty good indicator it’s not because of their religion.
It’s absolutely possible to hire so that someone can call off without causing a chain reaction that kills the schedule and triggers over time. Employers just don’t want to do it.
Normalize businesses having enough employees that they can take their time whenever they want as long as notice is far enough out. Or people can call in sick without a replacement being required because you were already operating with a couple “extra” people.
And definitely normalize closing on holidays. The sheer number of American employers that require holiday work means it’s not actually a holiday unless you’re wealthy enough. If you absolutely, holy shit, must be open for a holiday, hire people who don’t celebrate it. Maintaining a diverse staff means you can give holidays to the requisite groups without worry. Just put it on the application, “check the box for each holiday you must have off”.
Small businesses cannot afford a few extra people on staff.
It will be worth it if big corporations start taking care of people properly, but one side effect will be that all the small businesses who already struggle to compete with the big corporations will get completely crushed.
Fair enough that if your business model cannot afford to properly compensate the workers then you deserve to go out of business, but due to capitalism, all small businesses fall in to this category.
Only large corporations can survive the transition into properly compensating workers. Sad all around.
If your business cannot afford employees then your business model is not competitive.
If small business, as a whole, is not competitive then we need to get the trust busting stick out again and break these retail giants down to size. I for one look forward to all of the baby Amazons.
If your small business is slightly larger (>50 employees I think?) you have to start paying for health insurance, which adds significantly to the cost of each full-time employee.
Single payer healthcare would be a huge boon to small businesses.
Single payer healthcare would be the greatest gift to corporate finances since the last big bail out. Except it’s being used as an anti-competitive cudgel right now.
Give it a few decades and they’ll be back together under a different name. See Bell for a prime example. They’re one or two mergers from being at 100% again
Oh I’m aware. Thus the Baby Bells joke.
I’m sure the new team running the US will get right on that
Ugh.
It’s not just a question of affording employees. Where I work there’s only so many jobs to go around. If you hired enough extras to cover, then most of us would not have work to do on the daily. Even if they paid us to stand around, there are few people who want to do nothing at work all day. We have enough employees to cover one or two sick or vacationing people but we can’t let everyone on the team take the same time off with only a month’s notice. Well, not without losing customers.
Not everyone has to work every day. And pay doesn’t have to be hourly. To use a silly example, it could be done like a fantasy pirate ship. The expenses get paid for and then everyone gets a share. The elected captain gets 3 shares and his officers get 2.
If that’s not enough to hire enough people then refer to my previous comment. If it’s not enough across the board then we have a systemic issue that needs to be addressed. (It’s capitalism, it’s always fucking capitalism and monopolies)
Temp agencies exist for a reason.
Im not saying to not give people off. All I’m saying is there is no context here. From personal experience most people are selfish and there needs to be some kind of structure when giving PTO. Everyone should have an opportunity to be off but many places can’t shut down their business for 2 weeks because the home sports team made the playoffs. Again I’m speaking from experience. Some people need to be told no so that someone else that earned it or asked earlier can be off.
And just to add this but hiring so anyone can be off at anytime is not possible. You are essentially saying it’s ok to discriminate. For example if my business is in a predominantly Christian community many employees will want to be off on Sunday but that is a peak day because after church many people want to eat at my restaurant. Should I then reject any applications from Christian’s so I ensure I am staffed?
You don’t earn PTO. It comes in your contract and you can request it whenever you want it. Get out of your American bubble.
Earn in the context of they put in a lot of hours to finish a project or whatever.
Also don’t mention contracts if you don’t know what you’re talking about. There are plenty of contracts that offer zero pto. Again it’s all context. I swear y’all just want to argue and don’t even read what I’m typing. Business bad people good. That’s the extent of this argument at this point.
Get out of your American bubble
People don’t need to put in extra hours to get the justified amount of PTO that is on their contract.
Ignorant American, thinking is hard huh
Hiring for availability is 100 percent a thing. I’ve filled out an availability chart at every retail job I ever worked. They don’t ask why you aren’t available and it’s about making sure they can cover all of their positions. Discrimination is when you refuse to hire someone because of their religion, and having a bunch of people that are that religion already on staff is generally a pretty good indicator it’s not because of their religion.
It’s absolutely possible to hire so that someone can call off without causing a chain reaction that kills the schedule and triggers over time. Employers just don’t want to do it.