• Jeena
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    122 days ago

    What she is talking about is the data the Chinese government collects about its people like where you go when, who you meet, what you buy, what you talk about, who you’re friends with, if you are pregnant or not, etc.

    • @[email protected]
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      16 hours ago

      Thanks for providing context I probably should have checked to see what she was referring to.

      • Jeena
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        11 hour ago

        The duch have a specific data set they hoped not to have collected. They collected everyone’s religion.

        So when the Nazis came it was especially easy to find all the Jews in the Netherlands. In other countries they had to collect that data first.

    • @[email protected]
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      142 days ago

      Or what the NSA collects about Americans… like where you go when, who you meet, what you buy, what you talk about, who you’re friends with, if you are pregnant or not, etc.

      • Fontasia
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        22 days ago

        It’s what decisions are made with that data that’s the concern. A lot of “privacy advocates” believe that society can exist with the government not knowing anything about their population. I can’t think how:

        • a transport service can operate without knowing where people go and when
        • consumer advocacy can work without knowing what people will buy
        • what needs to be addressed in society without knowing what the issues are
        • what to educate people on unless you find out what they don’t know
        • a health service can adapt to the needs of aging populations without good fertility data

        You’re right, all this data can be used against someone for malicious reasons and like in the China example it’s easier to locate dissonance by listening. But evil can be done without data collection, it’s impossible to do good without it.

        • Jeena
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          22 days ago

          You don’t need personalized data to do those things. You can just count how many people use the bus instead of checking for every person where they are going when and why.

          • Fontasia
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            21 day ago

            I agree that aggregate data is the best way to improve things for the most number of people, you can’t help every single person, but also knowing the edge cases helps you find out things you don’t know.