• @hark
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    Like how biden winning in 2020 averted fascism? Also, don’t make things up about me, I did not insist any such thing.

    • @PugJesus
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      Like how biden winning in 2020 averted fascism?

      Yes, if you will remember, we were not under a fascist regime in 2020-2024. I understand that’s a hard thing for bougie middle-class kids to understand, but some of us actually have to deal with the government in our day-to-day lives.

      Also, don’t make things up about me, I did not insist any such thing.

      This comment chain where you cheerfully opine that an intensified Palestinian genocide doesn’t matter because it’s all the same destination anyway you?

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        Interesting how both republicans and democrats call each other fascists. Seems like everyone hates fascism!

        But of course you must be right, america surely paused all of their fascist activity from 2020 to 2024. Biden is so stronk what would we do without him holding back the fascist flood?

        • Flying Squid
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          Prepare yourself for a shock- the Nazis called themselves socialists and the North Koreans call their country a democratic republic.

          Sometimes some people use words properly and sometimes other groups of people use those words improperly for propaganda reasons.

          But I’m sure that can’t possibly be the case here. It’s not like you can legitimately call an incoming administration literally working out the details in putting up concentration camps right now fascist. Not one where the incumbent president is literally promising to be a dictator.

          I just don’t see the fascism connection there, do you?

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          But of course you must be right, america surely paused all of their fascist activity from 2020 to 2024. Biden is so stronk what would we do without him holding back the fascist flood?

          “Not electing a fascist stops fascism from being elected” may be a shocking revelation to you, but I assure you, most people understand this. It could have been a potato that was elected, so long as it wasn’t a fascist potato.

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          • @hark
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            Sure, I’m the murderer and not Biden who even bypassed congress to send billions in direct support of a genocide. Somehow you think that monster was moderate in his support of genocide.

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              Sure, I’m the murderer and not Biden who even bypassed congress to send billions in direct support of a genocide. Somehow you think that monster was moderate in his support of genocide.

              Wow, there can only be one murderer in existence at a time? There are a lot of world leaders who will be thrilled to hear this.

              You contributed to the genocide of the West Bank. Give yourself a blood-stained hand. You deserve it. 👏

              • @hark
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                How did I contribute to genocide by voting for Harris? By telling people online the obvious fact that democrats don’t give a shit about the Palestinians either? Decades of history prove my point, as does the treatment of protestors by the democrats during this election cycle, and then the mockery of those same protestors by democrats apparently thinking their relatives deserve to be slaughtered for wrong-voting (even though they weren’t anywhere close to enough to turn the election on their own).

                Meanwhile you’re defending democrats on all this and that makes you the good guy, I guess.

                • @PugJesus
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                  How did I contribute to genocide by voting for Harris?

                  You mean how you repeatedly said that voting for Harris was unconscionable on the grounds of genocide?

                  Either that was bullshit, or you claiming to vote for Harris was bullshit.

                  Or your worldview is so utterly confused that you can’t keep more than two thoughts going at the same time.

                  Decades of history prove my point, as does the treatment of protestors by the democrats during this election cycle, and then the mockery of those same protestors by democrats apparently thinking their relatives deserve to be slaughtered for wrong-voting (even though they weren’t anywhere close to enough to turn the election on their own).

                  You mean when you literally and explicitly played apologist for Muslim-American Trump voters who voted for Trump on the belief that he would be better for Gaza than Harris?

                  Like, holy fucking shit, you just defend anyone who isn’t a ‘shitlib’, don’t you? By 2028, I fully expect to see you throating Trump’s boot against the Demonrat menace.

                  Meanwhile you’re defending democrats on all this and that makes you the good guy, I guess.

                  Yes, defending Democrats is when you acknowledge that voters are responsible for their votes; how fucking horrible and intrinsic to the Democratic Party.

                  You’ll do anything to flee from responsibility.

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    • Flying Squid
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      You do know ‘averted’ doesn’t mean ‘avoided happening forever until the sun engulfs the Earth’ right?

      • @hark
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        Perhaps your standards are low, but I don’t count keeping the seat warm for one presidential term as averting anything. Biden could’ve picked an AG that actually pursued prosecution of Trump, but instead he put in milquetoast Garland who sat with his thumbs up his ass the entire time.

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          Then you don’t know what ‘averting’ means. When you avert your eyes, do you look away and not look back again for an hour?

          • @hark
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            My bad, I thought the goal was to fight fascism, not merely put a short pause on it. I suppose taking a one minute break between eating shit is better than continually eating shit, but I’d rather not be eating shit.

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              And yet, curiously, you continuously argue for the equivalence of eating shit and any amount of time spent not eating shit.

              • @hark
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                How am I doing that by arguing we should be putting pressure on democrats (our only seemingly pliable party in this two-party system) to actually fight fascism?

                • @PugJesus
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                  How am I doing that

                  This you?

                  You’re making a pointless argument. Things can always get worse. Name anything that could be done and I’ll tell you how it could be made worse. All you’re doing is distracting from the fact that both democrats and republicans are supporting a genocide and it’s not going to stop until Palestine does not exist anymore. The end result is the fucking same and you’re here arguing over pointless technicalities as if they mean anything. Get a clue.

                  How do you measure this “speed up”? What you consider a speed up could’ve simply been the progression of the campaign which would’ve occurred under democrats as well. Either way the end result is the complete annihilation of the Palestinian people. Do you think starving them all to death is better than bombing them all to death just because it’s slower?

                  • @hark
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                    Yes, that is me. What’s wrong with anything I’ve said? I’m pointing out the reality that democrats have been full-throatedly supporting the genocide. If you think we can’t do any better than that, then how do you think the genocide ends?