• BombOmOm
    link
    English
    0
    edit-2
    8 days ago

    It’s blatantly illegal for the commander in chief to dictate military spending/logistics?

    Congress sets the parameters for how money is spent. You certainly don’t like the next president, yet you encourage presidents to blatantly ignore budget requirements from Congress? Furthermore, you encourage the military to ignore Congress and do whatever illegal stuff the president asks of them?

    No, I do not want a dictator. Nor should you.

    • @Beetschnapps
      link
      78 days ago

      Calm down. Discretionary spending is a thing. Multiple arms shipments have already been made via executive decision and not congressional mandate.

      Your description of a dictator doesn’t need to include “sends support to allies” unless you have a bone to pick.

      There’s a lot more dictatorial shit coming down the pike. You can fret all you want about congress and rules over the next four years right now I don’t see the issue.

      • BombOmOm
        link
        English
        -1
        edit-2
        8 days ago

        Discretionary spending is a thing. Multiple arms shipments have already been made via executive decision and not congressional mandate.

        Absolutely. That is were notable portions are currently coming from. Biden gave a huge chunk of discretionary spending to Ukraine and some to Israel and some in support of Syrian rebels. This funding, critically, is also Congressionally approved and limited; it isn’t a blank check, Congress sets whatever limits they deem fit on it.

        Your description of a dictator doesn’t need to include “sends support to allies” unless you have a bone to pick.

        It comes from what we were talking about: something that would require, as you put it “send[ing] anything from the military and it’s impossible to prosecute him or the act as per the Supreme Court saying presidents enjoy absolute immunity?”. If you are talking about prosecutions and presidential immunity, we aren’t talking about Congressionally approved funding.

        In summary, Congressionally approved funding good (this includes discretionary spending by definition). While sending military aid that would require prosecutions and presidential immunity, bad.

        • @Beetschnapps
          link
          4
          edit-2
          8 days ago

          “Congressional funded” is a fun joke.

          You’re describing things the way an imaginary person would wish how they should exist. I agree but I’ll be the first to say you’re off from reality yet you keep on that fantasy.

          Things aren’t that way and there is no longer any mechanism to make them so. You aren’t wrong you’re just on a different planet. It’s not that things shouldn’t be that way, it’s the fact that there are no means to make that happen here and now. You are a part of that problem.

          Also you are focusing on a narrow application of sharing arms to define a dictator. Rather than saying “supporting an ally is different from becoming a dictator” you keep conflating the two … why?

          • BombOmOm
            link
            English
            3
            edit-2
            8 days ago

            there is no longer any mechanism to make them so…it’s the fact that there are no means to make that happen

            The vast majority of Ukraine aid was specifically mandated by Congress. This, for example, was $60B in April. I’m not sure what you are referring to when you say that there is ‘no means to make that happen’ when there clearly is.

            If your complaint is that people voted in too many Republicans and Republicans won’t do what you or I want, I would argue that Democrats should step up their game and earn more votes next election.

            • @Beetschnapps
              link
              28 days ago

              Again you’re describing things as they should be (aid approved by congress) not how they are or will be (infighting where Matt Gaetz dictates terms). Our world is worse than a single description so keep at it! You’re doing… someone’s work… minimizing stuff…