• @[email protected]
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    What the fuck are these statistics you’re trying to guide the conversation with?

    We’re able to guage things like the “average” income of Americans during the Great Depression by looking at taxes. This means you had to actually make enough to file taxes. The average income of that time is based entirely off of that data, which I think only 2% of the population was filing taxes at the time compared to today’s 70%. The average American was not making today’s equivalent of 30k more during the Great Depression.

    “Hunger rates” - the average American couldn’t buy fucking bread during the Great Depression.

    “Homeless rates” 2 million people were homeless compared to the, fuck it I’ll throw in an extra hundred thousand, 700,000 homeless people today.

    “Wealth inequality” Of course wealth inequality is worse today than in the Great Depression, the fucking stock market crashed in 1929.

    I can’t believe I had to spend precious fucking neurons on this, stop.

    Edit: “I’ve read plenty of history!” Doesn’t know what fucking Hoovervilles were.

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      Have you seen the reports coming from food pantry administrators? We have bread lines now, and they don’t have enough food for everyone who needs it. Police are literally guarding grocery store dumpsters to keep people from getting food out of them.

      But we can play it your way. You’ve said a lot about how we shouldn’t measure the difference. How about you propose which stats we should use? Let’s look into those.

      I suspect you won’t suggest any at all, because it’s bad by any measure.

      • @[email protected]
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        115 days ago

        Where in the direct comparisons between the two time periods did you conjure up that I’ve “said a lot about how we shouldn’t measure the difference.”? Where exactly did I suggest, while measuring the differences between the two time periods, that we shouldn’t measure the difference?

        • @surph_ninja
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          115 days ago

          There it is! The non-answer! Can’t ever be held to your word if you never actually say anything.

          • @[email protected]
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            015 days ago

            I’ve addressed every “point” you’ve made, you’ve done nothing but prove you’re a troglodyte.

            Go outside and talk to real people. Any other message from you and I’m going to give you my default response to cave trolls.

            • @surph_ninja
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              115 days ago

              Give me a statistic you believe credible. Name even a single measurement.

              Definitely an astroturfer trying to convince people things aren’t as bad as they are.

              • @[email protected]
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                015 days ago

                No, sorry I have a habit of not repeating anything to the illiterate. It’s not my job to teach you how to read, that was your parents - what a shit job, btw.

                • @surph_ninja
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                  115 days ago

                  Learn from this folks. This is how you out the bad actors. When they try to dismiss any measurement that doesn’t fit their narrative, ask them for a measurement they would accept. Or ask them for a source they would accept. Etc.

                  They’ll never commit to any, because their job is to muddy the waters. They don’t want to come to an understanding. They don’t want anyone to seek the truth. They will never commit to any source or statistic being reliable, because then you can use it to prove them wrong, and their opposition stance will be completely outed as manufactured.

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                    15 days ago

                    I have literally detailed how the metrics you conveniently pivoted away from were measured.

                    Learn from this folks. This person should have never been taught how to use words.

                    Edit: If you stay out in the sun you’re going to turn into a statue, I’d suggest you get back in your cave.