• @normalexit
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    301 month ago

    Can we please just have a real progressive party instead?

    • ProdigalFrog
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      1 month ago

      With the current voting system, no real restrictions on billionaire funding, and a complicit mainstream media… I don’t think we’re gonna get much from electoralism at this point, we’re kinda on our own. FDR didn’t have all these obstacles back in the day.

      • @rockSlayer
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        131 month ago

        FDR didn’t have all these obstacles back in the day.

        Yes he did. The difference was that he had to respond in a way that satisfied a militant labor movement without going too far to disrupt the capitalist class. It was a fight up hill the entire way by working class union members.

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          The wealth disparity is the same, but the populace and circumstances are a bit different:

          1. There was not a literal fascist propaganda news network brainwashing half the voter base (Fox news)
          2. There wasn’t a significant population which believed any ol conspiracy tossed at them
          3. His political opponents didn’t have a cult, comprised of anti-intellectuals
          4. We didn’t have an enemy state attempting to influence our elections (at least, not nearly on the same level)
          5. Had a serious left-leaning populist political opponent in Huey Long (before his assassination) preaching his Share the Wealth progam.

          I don’t disagree that it was a hard fight for the working class to even get that much, even without those externalities

        • Flying Squid
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          51 month ago

          FDR also was from the 1%, so he knew how to talk to his fellows.