Their jokes about assigning gender to babies and to being transgender, dressing in drag, like all of it was a send-up.

Sure, they did punch down if you were a person who were in those groups, but the fact that it was large enough social event to be relevant enough to be a comedy skit on a television show or a movie seen by millions implies that there were some serious things going on back then that they could see and wanted to address.

What the hell was going on that put all of those things in their mind?

  • @RememberTheApollo_
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    206 days ago

    If one views MP’s comedy of men playing women’s parts as part of traditional theater in England (historically men played all parts, including women’s roles, especially in Shakespearian times) then the act of cross-dressing is not punching down, it is a tradition that the anachronism makes humorous.

    They certainly mocked gender stereotypes of the era, but even when they had characters that were gay they didn’t really attack the “gay” part, just exaggerated the character’s flamboyance for effect. Another stereotype that we still see in movies and TV today, it hasn’t stopped being humorous, we just acknowledge the stereotype vs any overriding prejudice that may have been more the norm 40-50 years ago.

    I’m a pretty big fan, collected all the Flying Circus and movies, and I absolutely could be wrong about my take, it’s been a while since I watched a lot of their act. But I do remember not cringing hard at any of the gender or gay roles. For the time they were pretty kind and didn’t usually directly mock the person for being female or gay, it was just who they were in that role. Nonetheless, some of it wouldn’t work today.

    • @angrystego
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      146 days ago

      Well, Graham Chapman was quite openly gay, it’s not surprizing they didn’t mock gays.

      • @[email protected]
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        16 days ago

        uh they frequently did, they had a whole sketch which is just them saying “no pooftahs” (equivalent of the f-slur)

        • @angrystego
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          5 days ago

          They were making fun of the people saying that in the sketch. The guy saying “no pooftahs” there was Graham Chapman himself :)