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  • Doom
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    -12 months ago

    You are extremely twisted up.

    Liberalism is not right wing, and what you’re talking about is neoliberalism. Which is different.

    • @[email protected]
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      42 months ago

      Overton window around here is so far right you think you’re the one correcting him… Fuck damn.

      Compared to monarchy/fascism, liberalism is farther towards the center but it does not often cross that line.

      • Doom
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        -22 months ago

        Hahaha imagine being this arrogant and immediately shooting yourself in the foot.

        No Liberalism is left leaning. It is a center ideology 100% but liberalism is left leaning. The concept of liberalism literally became in existence opposite of a monarchy right wing style, placing it to the left.

        Now since then the term liberalism has been abused especially in the US but you live in a world that was ruled by kings and still is in many ways. But you think globally that means liberals are right leaning?? Outside of your mind.

        • @[email protected]
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          22 months ago

          In our day and age liberalism is center right. It was left wing back in Napoleonic times. But its post-cold war now. Capitalism and thoroughly replaced feudalism.

          • Doom
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            -12 months ago

            cause you’re talking about three different kinds of liberalism thinking they’re the same

            • @[email protected]
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              12 months ago

              Different evolutions of the same ideological movement representing the same socioeconomic class. How is this hard to understand? All US presidents have been liberals. Different types of liberals exist but they are still liberals.

              • Doom
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                02 months ago

                Apparently for you it is. Go take a single political science class and tell your teacher Liberalism is right wing ideology or right leaning they’re gonna ask you to prove it and you’ll say “well fiscally” and they’re gonna laugh at you

                • @[email protected]
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                  12 months ago

                  This is the academic and historical definition of liberalism that I’m using. Your US civics teacher gave you the brain damage to think liberalism is the opposite of conservatism and not just a clever slander of progressives.

                  • Doom
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                    12 months ago

                    No it is not. You tried to say in “Napoleonic times” it WAS left and moved right.

                    That is not how ideologies work and that is not how the political spectrum works either. Literally google political spectrum I would bet my testicles enough of them exist that literally label the left side “Liberal”

                    And no my polisci professor did not say it is the opposite of conservatism especially because it predates such a thing. In fact conservatism is considered a reactionary political stance to liberalism. Instead he made it clear before Liberalism there was really only traditionalism and people discussing concepts like liberty and freedom and such, there wasn’t anything to compare it to. He also made it clear that defining these and stances about these politics is extremely difficult for example people still dunno if Jefferson agreed or disagreed with Locke because of the life, liberty and pursuit of happiness line.

                    But what he did make absolutely clear was the political spectrum was not very well made and that liberalism is left wing you dope

      • Doom
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        02 months ago

        Uh huh and what about the rest of liberalism

          • Doom
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            02 months ago

            Hahaha sure.

            I agree largely with the information you’ve presented but you’re swerving to prove a point.

            Liberalism as a whole umbrella term is absolutely left wing. It literally is like the basis of left wing anything. Fiscally it is only considered more right than it was because of the introduction of socalism really but broadly across the world and history no liberalism in all forms is left leaning even if it suggests some right leaning fiscal policies it also has left leaning fiscal policies, affordable healthcare, housing, the idea of people not being dirt poor or slaves to a system stems from liberalism in its heart, name and literally everything else liberalism is left wing. The most right leaning form of liberalism, neoliberalism is still domestically pretty left leaning.

            You guys hangout too inside a box of leftness everything you see is right leaning

    • @inv3r510n
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      12 months ago

      No. You’re completely wrong. Liberalism is a right wing ideology. Neoliberalism is even further right. The entire US political spectrum save for a tiny handful of elected officials (Bernie and the squad, most of whom are centrists at best) are right wing to fascist.

      • Doom
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        -12 months ago

        Nope. You completely don’t understand classic liberalism and modern liberalism or neoliberalism

        • @inv3r510n
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          02 months ago

          Dude. You’re embarrassing yourself.

          • Doom
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            02 months ago

            Because what three yuppies think Liberalism, the beginning of the concept of left wing anything, is right wing? Billions of people on the planet three morons aren’t right big deal lmfao.