• @[email protected]OP
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    It doesn’t hurt to remind the ruling class once in a while whose boss.

    But yeah. A revolution will take a lot more than a targeted assination of a couple CEOs.

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      Does it help? Because I’m guessing what will happen here is CEOs will just get big security details and less-discerning copycats will end up killing innocent people.

      And rates will continue to rise and not one less person will be denied.

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        In the short term yes you’re right.

        But look at the populist anger this action sparked. These kind of extrajudicial killings that rile up the population, are very much associated with revolutions and changes in power. (Sometimes for good, sometimes for bad).

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          Dude, America just elected a plutocrat dictator. There’s not going to be socialized medicine any time in the near future and insurance companies will pass the cost of their security teams on to the people forced to pay for their needless existences.

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            That plutocrat was elected through a manipulation of populist rage.

            Check out the policy proposal forums RFK and Trump set up for their supporters. Expanding Medicare has more upvotes than downvotes

            Paul Krugmann wrote an interesting piece touching on this yesterday (Gift Article) https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/09/opinion/elites-euro-social-media.html?unlocked_article_code=1.gU4.cSdP.OL0VogKNmVT3&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

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              What difference does that make now? Why do you think they actually care what their supporters want?

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                I don’t. But it means that these people may not be so far from the same ideal as us. Which matters in convincing people for a revolution, and elections later on (if they still will be free and fair after Trump).

                In fact, polling showed, a substantial number of people in 2016 and 2020 went from Bernie voting in primaries to voting Trump. The people want someone who isn’t scared to criticise neoliberal elitism.

                • Flying Squid
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                  Yes, the famously free and fair elections under dictatorships.

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                    Well Trump was president in 2016 and we had a free election in 2020. But even if 2028 is not free, the current situation is that the vast majority of the country is boiling in anti-elite sentiment, this could lead to a revolution.

                    I’m sorry if I’m not conforming with you pessimistic or what you might call “realist” views. But I’m not going to give up. I’m not going to let facism win. We can only achieve a better future if we start imagining it and believing in it. If Facism wins I get murdered. I’m doing everything to not let that happen.

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              Expanding Medicare has more upvotes than downvotes

              You really think this represents US society at large? I think you’ll need a better source than that.

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        No security is foolproof, and a security detail has precious little ability to withstand a raging mob. Importantly, there are only so many former spec ops for hire. Most of these psychopaths will have to settle for 3rd rate rentacops.

        • Flying Squid
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          Anda security detail has previous little ability to withstand a raging mob.

          Which, again, is not targeted assassination.

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            The same method probably won’t work again.