• @apfelwoiSchoppen
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    -82 days ago

    “Before you turn left, you turn right, and you probably don’t notice you’re doing it.”

    This is a cultural thing not specific to bicycles. People in motor vehicles do this unnecessarily as well and of course it is much more dangerous.

    • @[email protected]
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      232 days ago

      This isn’t cultural, it’s a physical necessity of turning on a bike. If you were to just turn, you’d fall over. I seem to recall veritassium having an excellent video where they physically prevented the bike from countersteering to showcase.

      People do it in cars for another reason; it gives you a wider turn angle.

      • @apfelwoiSchoppen
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        2 days ago

        I understand why people do it on a bike. In a car it is cultural. There is no reason to turn right before turning left in a left hand turn lane, going safe speeds. A person doing so rarely sees cyclists or the lane next to them. I’ve seen my fair share of accidents stemming from this behavior. A wider turning radius isn’t needed in a car 95% of the situations in which this weird trick is used.

        Sure if you are racing in a grand prix or have a trailer hitched to a truck, but when you’re turning your SUV left into a Target in Sheboygan, chances are your vehicle can handily manage the turning radius just fine.

    • Counter steering is taught in motorcycle defensive driving courses. It’s faster and safer to give the bars a counter-push and release, and let physics do its thing, than to try to fight momentum.

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        42 days ago

        I rode a 4 wheel ATV after years of riding motorcycles and I kept trying to countersteer instinctively because they have handlebars. Most people on two wheels (myself included) don’t even realize that they’re countersteering.