Asking for a friend

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  • @ClinicallydepressedpoochieOP
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    She says she grateful for your thoughtful response and did not intend to be rude but asked if you had any examples of this working. I told her that would be rude because you’re a very kind thoughtful person so don’t mind her.

    • cabbage
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      She’ll be happy to hear that it has worked on numerous occasions throughout history! After the fall of Fascism in Europe, people in many countries got together and created strong welfare states in the post war period. Some were more successful than others, but even in the ultraconservative UK they managed to create a national health service that hs proven difficult to kill off.

      Sadly, I’ll have to break to her that the fight never ends. The second you stop fighting for progress, some asshole will pop up and try to instill feudalism again. After a generation or two people tend to forget the ongoing nature of this threat, and it seems we haven’t managed to come up with ways to permanently get rid of it, despite our best efforts following the French and American revolutions.

      Maybe the time has come to go back to the drawing board, and rethink some of the decisions that were made back then. Jefferson said every generation should have its own constitution. Maybe he was right.

      • @[email protected]
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        It has worked after a violent struggle forced the system to change or gave opportunities for previously oppressed voices to come into power.

        • cabbage
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          Yeah, generally people need quite a bit of nudging before they get off their asses.

          So now seems like a good time to start - no reason to wait for things to get even worse. This is why I stress the community building - it only really requires people to fight back, but it does require people to fight back.