Hello, sh.itjust.works community. I am curious what you think about ClubsAll, and whether you think we should stay federated with them. A few other Lemmy instances have recently defederated so this seems like a timely topic for discussion.

In short, ClubsAll is an ActivityPub-compatible Reddit clone. The site currently has one-way federation with no attribution: ClubsAll pulls content from Lemmy and displays it as local ClubsAll content. For example, you can visit https://clubsall.com/c/196 and there is no indication that the content is from https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/c/196.

Here are relevant posts with more information and context:

In the first post the ClubsAll founder commented that they plan to eventually have two-way federation, and to make the project open source. Whether those things actually happens is anyone’s guess.

What do you think?

  • enkers
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    195 days ago

    How about giving some leeway if they have indicated the intent to fully federate? Say, if they don’t support bidirectional federation with 6 months (?), they will be defederated provisionally until they do. That way, we’re still taking their declared intent in good faith, but not being a pushover.

    • @vinay_clubsall
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      21 day ago

      Thank you. I request the defederation being traffic based rather than time based. Would that be fair?

      • enkers
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        21 day ago

        I mean, ultimately I’m just a user making a suggestion, of what sort of approach seems fair. I’m not certain what a reasonable time (or traffic) limit would be, exactly. I think if you were to make a suggestion to the admins, they’d likely accept it so long as it’s reasonable.

    • kersplooshOP
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      22 days ago

      I like this. I will put a reminder on my calendar to check on ClubsAll in a few months. If more users complain about it then we can reconsider the approach.

      • enkers
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        12 days ago

        I’m not sure if they’re aware of this thread, but I think the important part would be to notify them of the intended consequence. The point of the deadline is so that the other party is incentivised to implement compliance in a reasonably timely fashion.

        Otherwise, the arbitrary date of now isn’t much different than that of a few months later.

    • Clay_pidgin
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      65 days ago

      Seems reasonable. I don’t have any technical complaint with what they’re doing, but it feels icky as long as there’s no attribution.

      • @vinay_clubsall
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        31 day ago

        Our challenge has been that many people feel differently to what is fair. So I have been requesting if all admins can agree to a common set of rules so we can comply with it and be upstanding community members. Is that reasonable request?