I hate how “anti-war” has been hijacked by these people to mean, let imperialist countries invade whoever they want with no consequences. (in the case of tankies, any imperialist country that isn’t in NATO).

  • Flying Squid
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    1711 hours ago

    My favorite is when they argue that China has billionaires and private property and a stock market because Marx said you have to go through capitalism to get to communism. Which… doesn’t somehow also apply to the West?

    • @[email protected]
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      -210 hours ago

      What makes you say they don’t think it applies to the West? I don’t follow your logic there.

      • Flying Squid
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        710 hours ago

        Because if you tell them China is just as capitalist as the West, they tell you it absolutely isn’t and is a communist country.

        • Cruxifux
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          27 hours ago

          Ok but China is absolutely not as capitalist as the west, and that’s an insane thing to say.

        • @[email protected]
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          09 hours ago

          I’d buy that line if China wasn’t integrating those large businesses (albeit slowly) into the public sector, something the west is not doing, but rather moving to deregulate more and more (Thanks Trump! /s)

          • Flying Squid
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            39 hours ago

            And yet it’s still not a communist country. I get that you want it to be a communist country, but it isn’t.

            • @[email protected]
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              08 hours ago

              You won’t see me argue that China is communist, it’s socialist as it stands now with the stated goal of becoming communist

              • Flying Squid
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                36 hours ago

                Really? Socialist? Which workers control the means of production?

                • @[email protected]
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                  05 hours ago

                  In industries that have been pulled into the public fold, sure. I’m calling them socialist In the same vein that you might still call most western countries capitalist despite having market regulations and some companies that are workers co-ops or use other socially owned frameworks. As long as they’re solidly on this trajectory it seems silly to me to label it otherwise at this point just as it would be silly to call the us socialist for having a few employee owned businesses

                  • Flying Squid
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                    14 hours ago

                    Which industries are controlled by the workers? Name them please.