“My friends, you don’t have to be a PhD in political science to understand that this is not democracy. This is not one person, one vote. This is not all of us coming together to decide our future. This is oligarchy.”

  • davel [he/him]
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    1022 hours ago

    Sanders will say that It’s OK to Be Angry About Capitalism, and he’ll complain about “crony” capitalism and “über” capitalism, but as a liberal he’ll never question capitalism as such. He’ll never question private ownership of the means of production.

    • @[email protected]
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      919 hours ago

      I support him in so far as he is leagues more socialist than the vast majority of his peers in the democratic party. But ultimately, yeah, he’s not likely to support a total overthrow of the capitalist institution in America. I think he’d rather America more closely resemble the Scandinavian countries politically. Honestly, I think opposing him in achieving that is kind of foolish. It would objectively improve the lives of hundreds of millions of people. It would be a path forward, and in many ways, it is a foreseeable path, one that I don’t think is impossible.

      I’d also support a general strike and an outright revolutionary uprising, though. Capitalism is and has always been the problem. Doing away with it in its entirety is the right thing to do. Human life shouldn’t be for profit. The fruits of production should be shared fairly among all. The progress achieved by science and engineering should be a collective boon for all of humanity.

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        16 hours ago

        Honestly, I think opposing him in achieving that is kind of foolish.

        the democrats don’t agree and have proved it in 2016 & 2020

      • davel [he/him]
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        521 hours ago

        The capitalist class is never going to relinquish their control of the state[1][2] through needle movement[3].

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      For what it’s worth, their platform is an interesting bridge which does make the concept of ‘socialism’ more palatable to those who have only heard of the term in reference to Stalin and Mao. They’re the entrance to a pipeline. And while I think it’s worth investigating and IMO ultimately a good thing, it’s also important to understand that Bernie is not a socialist in any meaningful interpretation of the term - they’re pro-capitalism, what they want is social capitalism. They only aim to fix the symptoms, not the root cause.